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Each episode asks a simple but urgent question: what does it look like to become a peacebuilder right where you are? Peace Is Power is an initiative of Euphrates Institute, which has trained peace leaders from more than 60 countries.

If war affects us all, peace must be built by all of us.]]></itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-ab59914e-7fff-2aca-586e-562e9268a027"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ab59914e-7fff-2aca-586e-562e9268a027"> Hollywood actress and meditation teacher Stephanie Nash joins Janessa Gans Wilder to explore how inner peace can transform our relationship with emotions, conflict, and the world around us. Reflecting on her connection to the ocean, Stephanie shares how mindfulness helped her embrace vulnerability and find peace beyond external circumstances. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ab59914e-7fff-2aca-586e-562e9268a027"> Together, they explore practical ways to process difficult emotions, interrupt stress through breathing and laughter, and approach life's challenges with greater presence. They also discuss why peace is not passivity, the importance of women's leadership in peacebuilding, and how simple, accessible meditation practices can create meaningful change in our lives and relationships. </span></p><b id="docs-internal-guid-ab59914e-7fff-2aca-586e-562e9268a027"><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Key Takeaways:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Vulnerability is a source of strength </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Allowing ourselves to experience difficult emotions rather than suppressing them creates space for authenticity, connection, and personal power. </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Inner peace does not depend on external circumstances </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Mindfulness helps us remain grounded amid uncertainty and conflict, allowing us to respond with clarity rather than react from fear. </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Processing emotions creates space for clarity </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Noticing bodily sensations, releasing tension, and allowing emotions to flow can reduce suffering and strengthen emotional awareness. </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Peace can be playful, active, and powerful </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Peace is not passivity. Laughter, playfulness, and conscious breathing can interrupt negative thought patterns and support more intentional action.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"> </p><p dir="ltr"><b>Mindfulness should be accessible to everyone </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Effective meditation practices should fit our individual needs and daily routines, whether through a few mindful breaths or short moments of sensory awareness. </p><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Timestamps:</b></p><p dir="ltr"> (00:41) The ocean as a source of peace and healing-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Stephanie and Janessa explore their different relationships with the ocean.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (03:41) How mindfulness transforms discomfort-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Stephanie shares how meditation helped her embrace experiences she once feared.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (05:52) Vulnerability is your strength-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Why embracing difficult emotions can deepen presence and connection.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (07:33) Finding peace in the eye of the hurricane-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Cultivating inner steadiness despite external chaos.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (10:19) Everyday mindfulness and sensory awareness-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Using sights, sounds, and bodily sensations to quiet mental stories.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (16:14) Breathing through stress and overwhelm-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A simple breathing technique for managing rising stress.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (21:37) Laughter as a powerful disruptor-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Stephanie introduces her playful “three-bounce chuckle” exercise.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (28:15) Is peace passive, or is it power?-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">How grounded presence supports purposeful action rather than fearful reactions.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (31:19) Women, leadership, and peacebuilding-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Exploring gender expectations and barriers to women's public leadership.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (37:03) Making meditation accessible-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Why mindfulness must fit into the realities of everyday life.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (44:36) Finding the right meditation practice-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Choosing techniques based on individual needs, preferences, and schedules.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (47:40) How inner transformation changes relationships-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Stephanie shares how meditation can influence work, family, and emotional responses.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Guest Bio:</b></p><p dir="ltr"> Stephanie Nash is a Hollywood actress, meditation teacher, and mindfulness coach whose work brings together performance, emotional awareness, and personal transformation. Drawing on decades of experience in the entertainment industry and her own meditation practice, she helps people work with stress, self-judgment, difficult emotions, and the challenges of everyday life. </p><p dir="ltr"> Her approach emphasizes making mindfulness practical, accessible, and playful. Through breathing techniques, sensory awareness, and personalized meditation practices, Stephanie encourages people to cultivate greater presence, emotional resilience, and well-being without needing to withdraw from the demands of the world.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"> </p><p dir="ltr"><b> Follow Stephanie Nash </b></p><ul><li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" role="presentation"> Website: <a href="https://www.stephanienash.com/"> https://www.stephanienash.com/ </a></p></li><li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" role="presentation"> Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/stephanienashmeditatingactress/?hl=en"> https://www.instagram.com/stephanienashmeditatingactress/?hl=en </a></p></li></ul></b><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-ab59914e-7fff-2aca-586e-562e9268a027"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ab59914e-7fff-2aca-586e-562e9268a027"> Hollywood actress and meditation teacher Stephanie Nash joins Janessa Gans Wilder to explore how inner peace can transform our relationship with emotions, conflict, and the world around us. Reflecting on her connection to the ocean, Stephanie shares how mindfulness helped her embrace vulnerability and find peace beyond external circumstances. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ab59914e-7fff-2aca-586e-562e9268a027"> Together, they explore practical ways to process difficult emotions, interrupt stress through breathing and laughter, and approach life's challenges with greater presence. They also discuss why peace is not passivity, the importance of women's leadership in peacebuilding, and how simple, accessible meditation practices can create meaningful change in our lives and relationships. </span></p><b id="docs-internal-guid-ab59914e-7fff-2aca-586e-562e9268a027"><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Key Takeaways:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Vulnerability is a source of strength </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Allowing ourselves to experience difficult emotions rather than suppressing them creates space for authenticity, connection, and personal power. </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Inner peace does not depend on external circumstances </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Mindfulness helps us remain grounded amid uncertainty and conflict, allowing us to respond with clarity rather than react from fear. </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Processing emotions creates space for clarity </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Noticing bodily sensations, releasing tension, and allowing emotions to flow can reduce suffering and strengthen emotional awareness. </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Peace can be playful, active, and powerful </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Peace is not passivity. Laughter, playfulness, and conscious breathing can interrupt negative thought patterns and support more intentional action.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"> </p><p dir="ltr"><b>Mindfulness should be accessible to everyone </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Effective meditation practices should fit our individual needs and daily routines, whether through a few mindful breaths or short moments of sensory awareness. </p><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Timestamps:</b></p><p dir="ltr"> (00:41) The ocean as a source of peace and healing-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Stephanie and Janessa explore their different relationships with the ocean.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (03:41) How mindfulness transforms discomfort-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Stephanie shares how meditation helped her embrace experiences she once feared.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (05:52) Vulnerability is your strength-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Why embracing difficult emotions can deepen presence and connection.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (07:33) Finding peace in the eye of the hurricane-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Cultivating inner steadiness despite external chaos.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (10:19) Everyday mindfulness and sensory awareness-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Using sights, sounds, and bodily sensations to quiet mental stories.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (16:14) Breathing through stress and overwhelm-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A simple breathing technique for managing rising stress.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (21:37) Laughter as a powerful disruptor-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Stephanie introduces her playful “three-bounce chuckle” exercise.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (28:15) Is peace passive, or is it power?-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">How grounded presence supports purposeful action rather than fearful reactions.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (31:19) Women, leadership, and peacebuilding-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Exploring gender expectations and barriers to women's public leadership.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (37:03) Making meditation accessible-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Why mindfulness must fit into the realities of everyday life.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (44:36) Finding the right meditation practice-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Choosing techniques based on individual needs, preferences, and schedules.</span></p><p dir="ltr"> (47:40) How inner transformation changes relationships-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Stephanie shares how meditation can influence work, family, and emotional responses.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Guest Bio:</b></p><p dir="ltr"> Stephanie Nash is a Hollywood actress, meditation teacher, and mindfulness coach whose work brings together performance, emotional awareness, and personal transformation. Drawing on decades of experience in the entertainment industry and her own meditation practice, she helps people work with stress, self-judgment, difficult emotions, and the challenges of everyday life. </p><p dir="ltr"> Her approach emphasizes making mindfulness practical, accessible, and playful. Through breathing techniques, sensory awareness, and personalized meditation practices, Stephanie encourages people to cultivate greater presence, emotional resilience, and well-being without needing to withdraw from the demands of the world.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"> </p><p dir="ltr"><b> Follow Stephanie Nash </b></p><ul><li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" role="presentation"> Website: <a href="https://www.stephanienash.com/"> https://www.stephanienash.com/ </a></p></li><li dir="ltr" aria-level="1"><p dir="ltr" role="presentation"> Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/stephanienashmeditatingactress/?hl=en"> https://www.instagram.com/stephanienashmeditatingactress/?hl=en </a></p></li></ul></b><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <itunes:subtitle>Hollywood actress and meditation teacher Stephanie Nash joins Janessa Gans Wilder to explore how inner peace can transform our relationship with emotions, conflict, and the world around us. Reflecting on her connection to the ocean, Stephanie shares how...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Hollywood actress and meditation teacher Stephanie Nash joins Janessa Gans Wilder to explore how inner peace can transform our relationship with emotions, conflict, and the world around us. Reflecting on her connection to the ocean, Stephanie shares how mindfulness helped her embrace vulnerability and find peace beyond external circumstances. 
 Together, they explore practical ways to process difficult emotions, interrupt stress through breathing and laughter, and approach life's challenges with greater presence. They also discuss why peace is not passivity, the importance of women's leadership in peacebuilding, and how simple, accessible meditation practices can create meaningful change in our lives and relationships. 

 Key Takeaways:

 
Vulnerability is a source of strength 
 Allowing ourselves to experience difficult emotions rather than suppressing them creates space for authenticity, connection, and personal power. 

Inner peace does not depend on external circumstances 
 Mindfulness helps us remain grounded amid uncertainty and conflict, allowing us to respond with clarity rather than react from fear. 

Processing emotions creates space for clarity 
 Noticing bodily sensations, releasing tension, and allowing emotions to flow can reduce suffering and strengthen emotional awareness. 

Peace can be playful, active, and powerful 
 Peace is not passivity. Laughter, playfulness, and conscious breathing can interrupt negative thought patterns and support more intentional action.

 
Mindfulness should be accessible to everyone 
 Effective meditation practices should fit our individual needs and daily routines, whether through a few mindful breaths or short moments of sensory awareness. 

 Timestamps:
 (00:41) The ocean as a source of peace and healing-&nbsp;Stephanie and Janessa explore their different relationships with the ocean.
 (03:41) How mindfulness transforms discomfort-&nbsp;Stephanie shares how meditation helped her embrace experiences she once feared.
 (05:52) Vulnerability is your strength-&nbsp;Why embracing difficult emotions can deepen presence and connection.
 (07:33) Finding peace in the eye of the hurricane-&nbsp;Cultivating inner steadiness despite external chaos.
 (10:19) Everyday mindfulness and sensory awareness-&nbsp;Using sights, sounds, and bodily sensations to quiet mental stories.
 (16:14) Breathing through stress and overwhelm-&nbsp;A simple breathing technique for managing rising stress.
 (21:37) Laughter as a powerful disruptor-&nbsp;Stephanie introduces her playful “three-bounce chuckle” exercise.
 (28:15) Is peace passive, or is it power?-&nbsp;How grounded presence supports purposeful action rather than fearful reactions.
 (31:19) Women, leadership, and peacebuilding-&nbsp;Exploring gender expectations and barriers to women's public leadership.
 (37:03) Making meditation accessible-&nbsp;Why mindfulness must fit into the realities of everyday life.
 (44:36) Finding the right meditation practice-&nbsp;Choosing techniques based on individual needs, preferences, and schedules.
 (47:40) How inner transformation changes relationships-&nbsp;Stephanie shares how meditation can influence work, family, and emotional responses.

 Guest Bio:
 Stephanie Nash is a Hollywood actress, meditation teacher, and mindfulness coach whose work brings together performance, emotional awareness, and personal transformation. Drawing on decades of experience in the entertainment industry and her own meditation practice, she helps people work with stress, self-judgment, difficult emotions, and the challenges of everyday life. 
 Her approach emphasizes making mindfulness practical, accessible, and playful. Through breathing techniques, sensory awareness, and personalized meditation practices, Stephanie encourages people to cultivate greater presence, emotional resilience, and well-being without needing to withdraw from the demands of the world.

 
 Follow Stephanie Nash...]]></itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Rev. Dr. Fuhbang Emmanuel Tanifum, a pastor, theologian, interfaith leader, and grassroots peacebuilder working in Bamenda, Cameroon, amid the country’s ongoing Anglophone conflict.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel shares the childhood experience that first shaped his commitment to nonviolence: as a teenager, he was seriously wounded after responding to a family conflict with violence. The experience led him to question what violence could actually accomplish and convinced him that “violence will only beget violence.”</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">His organization combines peacebuilding and leadership education with vocational and self-employment training, helping young people develop both the skills and economic independence to reject recruitment by violent actors.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The conversation explores why sustainable peace requires grassroots participation, why peacebuilding must be supported as a long-term investment, and how individuals can find courage, hope, and purpose even in difficult circumstances. Emmanuel ultimately argues that peace is not simply the absence of violence but a form of transformative power, and that creating a peaceful world requires each of us to practice peace in our own lives and communities.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Key Takeaways:</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Nonviolence is a conscious choice</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Emmanuel’s own experience taught him that responding to violence with violence only creates more violence. He describes peace as an intentional path that anyone can choose. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Peacebuilding must address economic realities</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Peace skills alone may not be enough when young people have few ways to support themselves. Emmanuel’s programs combine peace leadership with vocational and self-employment training, giving youth alternatives to violence. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Young people need a meaningful role in peace</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Emmanuel focuses on bringing together people from different religious, linguistic, and social backgrounds. The goal is not only to teach peace skills but to help young people become peace leaders within their communities. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Sustainable peace has to reach the grassroots</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Top-down approaches cannot create durable peace on their own. Reconciliation, healing, and community participation must happen at the grassroots level, with young people and women included in peace processes.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Peace requires long-term commitment </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Peacebuilding is not an overnight solution. Emmanuel emphasizes the need for sustained resources, partnerships, and investment to grow the movement of young people committed to addressing political, social, and economic injustice without violence.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Timestamps:</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (05:56) The childhood experience that shaped a peacebuilder-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel recalls the violent family conflict that nearly cost him his life and explains how it changed his understanding of violence.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (12:24) Why violence cannot create peace-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel reflects on the conscious decision he made as a young man to reject violence and pursue peace.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (13:44) Life in Bamenda during the conflict-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel describes the continuing deadlock between the government and separatists and the need for grassroots healing and reconciliation.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (16:01) Understanding Cameroon’s Anglophone conflict-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel explains the conflict's historical and political roots and how tensions escalated after protests by teachers and lawyers in 2016.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (18:17) The human cost of the conflict-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">He discusses deaths, displacement, sexual violence, destroyed villages, kidnappings, school closures, and the broader suffering experienced by communities.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (19:58) When violence becomes a livelihood-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel explains why unemployment and a lack of economic opportunities can make young people vulnerable to recruitment and manipulation by violent groups.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (22:25) Turning peace skills into economic opportunity-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">After seeing that peace pledges alone were not enough, Emmanuel’s organization began incorporating livelihood and self-employment training into its peacebuilding curriculum.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (26:20) Vocational training as peacebuilding-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel discusses organic farming, renewable energy, conservation, and community nursing as ways for young people to build livelihoods while contributing to their communities.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (29:54) A nine-month path toward sustainable peace-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">He walks through the residential program, from psychosocial assessment and counseling to peace skills, vocational training, community engagement, and business planning.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (35:28) Kelly’s story of healing and transformation-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel shares how a traumatized young woman recovered through psychosocial support and training in organic farming, eventually becoming a mentor to other young women.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (40:33) The challenge of sustaining peacebuilding-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel discusses the lack of resources needed to sustain and scale effective grassroots peacebuilding programs.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (42:58) Why peace requires a grassroots approach-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">He argues that history demonstrates the limitations of violence and top-down approaches and emphasizes the importance of including communities, youth, and women.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (45:52) The risks of being a grassroots peacebuilder-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">He describes the security threats and suspicion peacebuilders can face when they work between opposing sides of an active conflict.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (51:16) Finding community and support-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel talks about the organizations and people who have supported his work and helped him continue despite the challenges.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (57:04) When peace becomes power-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel explains why he believes peace is the true power that can transform lives and create sustainable development.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (66:17) Where are you needed?-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa closes the episode by inviting listeners to practice “presence” by considering where they are needed and choosing to show up.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Guest Bio:</b></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Rev. Dr. Fuhbang Emmanuel Tanifum is the Cameroon Chapter President of the Euphrates Institute, founder and director of Ndabuchiseh—a grassroots youth peacebuilding NGO—and cofounder of the Martin Luther King University Institute in Bamenda, Cameroon. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5">As a teenager, Emmanuel narrowly survived an act of violence—an experience that triggered his hatred for violence. With training in theology, intercultural studies, and law, he has dedicated his career to empowering young people as youth peacebuilders across communities affected by armed violence in Cameroon.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5">Follow&nbsp;</span>Rev. Dr. Fuhbang Emmanuel Tanifum:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><a href="http://www.ndabuchiseh.org"> Ndabuchiseh </a> <br> <a href="http://www.malukuuniversity.org"> Martin Luther King University Institute (MALUKU) </a> <br> <a href="https://rohifoundationcameroon.org"> Rohi Foundation Cameroon </a> <br> <a href="https://web.facebook.com/fuhbang.emmanueltanifum.3/"> Facebook </a> <br> <a href="https://web.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559640943578"> Ndabuchiseh's Facebook </a> <br> <a href="https://web.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61561319712401"> Martin Luther King University Institute </a> <br> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmanuel-tanifum-fuhbang-esq-612824b3/"> Emmanuel Tanifum Fuhbang Esq | LinkedIn <br> </a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/ndabuchiseh/"> Ndabuchiseh: Posts | LinkedIn <br> </a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/maluku-university-institute/"> Martin Luther King University Institute (MALUKU): Overview | LinkedIn</a></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr">This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at www.euphrates.org.<span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/maluku-university-institute/"> </a></span></p><br><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Rev. Dr. Fuhbang Emmanuel Tanifum, a pastor, theologian, interfaith leader, and grassroots peacebuilder working in Bamenda, Cameroon, amid the country’s ongoing Anglophone conflict.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel shares the childhood experience that first shaped his commitment to nonviolence: as a teenager, he was seriously wounded after responding to a family conflict with violence. The experience led him to question what violence could actually accomplish and convinced him that “violence will only beget violence.”</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">His organization combines peacebuilding and leadership education with vocational and self-employment training, helping young people develop both the skills and economic independence to reject recruitment by violent actors.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The conversation explores why sustainable peace requires grassroots participation, why peacebuilding must be supported as a long-term investment, and how individuals can find courage, hope, and purpose even in difficult circumstances. Emmanuel ultimately argues that peace is not simply the absence of violence but a form of transformative power, and that creating a peaceful world requires each of us to practice peace in our own lives and communities.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Key Takeaways:</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Nonviolence is a conscious choice</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Emmanuel’s own experience taught him that responding to violence with violence only creates more violence. He describes peace as an intentional path that anyone can choose. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Peacebuilding must address economic realities</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Peace skills alone may not be enough when young people have few ways to support themselves. Emmanuel’s programs combine peace leadership with vocational and self-employment training, giving youth alternatives to violence. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Young people need a meaningful role in peace</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Emmanuel focuses on bringing together people from different religious, linguistic, and social backgrounds. The goal is not only to teach peace skills but to help young people become peace leaders within their communities. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Sustainable peace has to reach the grassroots</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Top-down approaches cannot create durable peace on their own. Reconciliation, healing, and community participation must happen at the grassroots level, with young people and women included in peace processes.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Peace requires long-term commitment </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Peacebuilding is not an overnight solution. Emmanuel emphasizes the need for sustained resources, partnerships, and investment to grow the movement of young people committed to addressing political, social, and economic injustice without violence.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><b>Timestamps:</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (05:56) The childhood experience that shaped a peacebuilder-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel recalls the violent family conflict that nearly cost him his life and explains how it changed his understanding of violence.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (12:24) Why violence cannot create peace-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel reflects on the conscious decision he made as a young man to reject violence and pursue peace.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (13:44) Life in Bamenda during the conflict-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel describes the continuing deadlock between the government and separatists and the need for grassroots healing and reconciliation.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (16:01) Understanding Cameroon’s Anglophone conflict-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel explains the conflict's historical and political roots and how tensions escalated after protests by teachers and lawyers in 2016.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (18:17) The human cost of the conflict-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">He discusses deaths, displacement, sexual violence, destroyed villages, kidnappings, school closures, and the broader suffering experienced by communities.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (19:58) When violence becomes a livelihood-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel explains why unemployment and a lack of economic opportunities can make young people vulnerable to recruitment and manipulation by violent groups.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (22:25) Turning peace skills into economic opportunity-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">After seeing that peace pledges alone were not enough, Emmanuel’s organization began incorporating livelihood and self-employment training into its peacebuilding curriculum.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (26:20) Vocational training as peacebuilding-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel discusses organic farming, renewable energy, conservation, and community nursing as ways for young people to build livelihoods while contributing to their communities.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (29:54) A nine-month path toward sustainable peace-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">He walks through the residential program, from psychosocial assessment and counseling to peace skills, vocational training, community engagement, and business planning.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (35:28) Kelly’s story of healing and transformation-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel shares how a traumatized young woman recovered through psychosocial support and training in organic farming, eventually becoming a mentor to other young women.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (40:33) The challenge of sustaining peacebuilding-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel discusses the lack of resources needed to sustain and scale effective grassroots peacebuilding programs.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (42:58) Why peace requires a grassroots approach-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">He argues that history demonstrates the limitations of violence and top-down approaches and emphasizes the importance of including communities, youth, and women.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (45:52) The risks of being a grassroots peacebuilder-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">He describes the security threats and suspicion peacebuilders can face when they work between opposing sides of an active conflict.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (51:16) Finding community and support-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel talks about the organizations and people who have supported his work and helped him continue despite the challenges.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (57:04) When peace becomes power-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Emmanuel explains why he believes peace is the true power that can transform lives and create sustainable development.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> (66:17) Where are you needed?-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa closes the episode by inviting listeners to practice “presence” by considering where they are needed and choosing to show up.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Guest Bio:</b></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"> Rev. Dr. Fuhbang Emmanuel Tanifum is the Cameroon Chapter President of the Euphrates Institute, founder and director of Ndabuchiseh—a grassroots youth peacebuilding NGO—and cofounder of the Martin Luther King University Institute in Bamenda, Cameroon. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5">As a teenager, Emmanuel narrowly survived an act of violence—an experience that triggered his hatred for violence. With training in theology, intercultural studies, and law, he has dedicated his career to empowering young people as youth peacebuilders across communities affected by armed violence in Cameroon.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5">Follow&nbsp;</span>Rev. Dr. Fuhbang Emmanuel Tanifum:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><a href="http://www.ndabuchiseh.org"> Ndabuchiseh </a> <br> <a href="http://www.malukuuniversity.org"> Martin Luther King University Institute (MALUKU) </a> <br> <a href="https://rohifoundationcameroon.org"> Rohi Foundation Cameroon </a> <br> <a href="https://web.facebook.com/fuhbang.emmanueltanifum.3/"> Facebook </a> <br> <a href="https://web.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61559640943578"> Ndabuchiseh's Facebook </a> <br> <a href="https://web.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61561319712401"> Martin Luther King University Institute </a> <br> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmanuel-tanifum-fuhbang-esq-612824b3/"> Emmanuel Tanifum Fuhbang Esq | LinkedIn <br> </a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/ndabuchiseh/"> Ndabuchiseh: Posts | LinkedIn <br> </a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/maluku-university-institute/"> Martin Luther King University Institute (MALUKU): Overview | LinkedIn</a></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr">This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at www.euphrates.org.<span id="docs-internal-guid-4be52c2f-7fff-897b-643b-312ec2fb8ed5"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/maluku-university-institute/"> </a></span></p><br><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Rev. Dr. Fuhbang Emmanuel Tanifum, a pastor, theologian, interfaith leader, and grassroots peacebuilder working in Bamenda, Cameroon, amid the country’s ongoing Anglophone...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Rev. Dr. Fuhbang Emmanuel Tanifum, a pastor, theologian, interfaith leader, and grassroots peacebuilder working in Bamenda, Cameroon, amid the country’s ongoing Anglophone conflict.
Emmanuel shares the childhood experience that first shaped his commitment to nonviolence: as a teenager, he was seriously wounded after responding to a family conflict with violence. The experience led him to question what violence could actually accomplish and convinced him that “violence will only beget violence.”
His organization combines peacebuilding and leadership education with vocational and self-employment training, helping young people develop both the skills and economic independence to reject recruitment by violent actors.
 
The conversation explores why sustainable peace requires grassroots participation, why peacebuilding must be supported as a long-term investment, and how individuals can find courage, hope, and purpose even in difficult circumstances. Emmanuel ultimately argues that peace is not simply the absence of violence but a form of transformative power, and that creating a peaceful world requires each of us to practice peace in our own lives and communities.

Key Takeaways:

Nonviolence is a conscious choice
 Emmanuel’s own experience taught him that responding to violence with violence only creates more violence. He describes peace as an intentional path that anyone can choose. 

Peacebuilding must address economic realities
 Peace skills alone may not be enough when young people have few ways to support themselves. Emmanuel’s programs combine peace leadership with vocational and self-employment training, giving youth alternatives to violence. 

Young people need a meaningful role in peace
 Emmanuel focuses on bringing together people from different religious, linguistic, and social backgrounds. The goal is not only to teach peace skills but to help young people become peace leaders within their communities. 

Sustainable peace has to reach the grassroots
 Top-down approaches cannot create durable peace on their own. Reconciliation, healing, and community participation must happen at the grassroots level, with young people and women included in peace processes.

 
Peace requires long-term commitment 
 Peacebuilding is not an overnight solution. Emmanuel emphasizes the need for sustained resources, partnerships, and investment to grow the movement of young people committed to addressing political, social, and economic injustice without violence.

Timestamps:
 (05:56) The childhood experience that shaped a peacebuilder-&nbsp;Emmanuel recalls the violent family conflict that nearly cost him his life and explains how it changed his understanding of violence.
 (12:24) Why violence cannot create peace-&nbsp;Emmanuel reflects on the conscious decision he made as a young man to reject violence and pursue peace.
 (13:44) Life in Bamenda during the conflict-&nbsp;Emmanuel describes the continuing deadlock between the government and separatists and the need for grassroots healing and reconciliation.
 (16:01) Understanding Cameroon’s Anglophone conflict-&nbsp;Emmanuel explains the conflict's historical and political roots and how tensions escalated after protests by teachers and lawyers in 2016.
 (18:17) The human cost of the conflict-&nbsp;He discusses deaths, displacement, sexual violence, destroyed villages, kidnappings, school closures, and the broader suffering experienced by communities.
 (19:58) When violence becomes a livelihood-&nbsp;Emmanuel explains why unemployment and a lack of economic opportunities can make young people vulnerable to recruitment and manipulation by violent groups.
 (22:25) Turning peace skills into economic opportunity-&nbsp;After seeing that peace pledges alone were not enough, Emmanuel’s organization began incorporating livelihood and self-employment training into its peacebuilding curriculum.
 (26:20)...]]></itunes:summary>
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      <title>Why Nonviolence Is Not Weakness - Ali Abu Awwad on the Courage to Fight Without Hate</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Palestinian non-violence leader Ali Abu Awwad about identity, non-violence, hope, and the search for a practical path toward peace. </p><p>Drawing on his experiences during the First and Second Intifadas, imprisonment, a hunger strike, and the death of his brother, Ali describes how his understanding of conflict transformed from resistance and revenge toward nonviolence as an identity and way of life. He argues that Palestinians and Israelis must confront their own fears, anger, stereotypes, and assumptions before they can build a shared future. </p><p>Ali calls on people around the world, particularly Americans, to become “pro-solution,” support constructive grassroots efforts, and engage their political representatives. Above all, he emphasizes steadfastness, shared humanity, and the need to build a future based on dignity, freedom, and mutual responsibility.</p><p><br></p><p> </p><p><b>Key Takeaways: </b></p><p><br></p><p><b>Non-violence is More Than a Strategy
</b></p><p>Non-violence is an identity and a way of life rather than simply a political tactic. For Ali, it means refusing to harm people while actively challenging systems of injustice. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Freedom Requires Recognizing Shared Humanity
</b></p><p>Palestinian freedom should not come at the expense of Jewish lives. Ali's goal is to challenge injustice in a way that allows both sides to recognize each other's humanity. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Non-violence begins with self-reflection
</b></p><p>Palestinians must examine their own leadership, strategies, and assumptions while developing a clear plan for achieving freedom. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Peace Requires More Than Political Agreements
</b></p><p>A sustainable solution must address identity, belonging, dignity, freedom, and people's daily realities. </p><p><br></p><p><b>The International Community Has a Responsibility
</b></p><p>Ali calls on people outside the region, especially Americans, to engage constructively by supporting grassroots organizations, becoming “pro-solution” rather than simply taking sides. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Timestamps:
</b></p><p>(00:00) Nonviolence and the power of humanity.
</p><p>Refusing to harm others can become a powerful form of resistance.
</p><p>(04:33) Twenty years after Encounter Point.
</p><p>Janessa reflects on first encountering Ali through the documentary and asks how attitudes toward nonviolence have changed.
</p><p>(05:28) Despair as an opportunity for change.
</p><p>(06:49) Identity, belonging, and shared destiny.
</p><p>The importance of recognizing both Palestinian and Jewish identities and building a shared future.
(18:37) Building a grassroots movement.
</p><p>(26:53) Finding a realistic political solution.
</p><p>The conditions necessary for a political solution and why Palestinians need freedom in order to contribute to Israel's security.
</p><p>(32:21) The responsibility of the international community.
</p><p>Ali calls for international engagement that recognizes the rights and dignity of both peoples.
(34:09) The First Intifada.
</p><p>Ali explains why he does not consider the First Intifada a fully nonviolent movement and why he believes movements must make a clear commitment to nonviolence.
</p><p>(39:33) The hunger strike and sacrifice.
</p><p>Ali recounts the hunger strike he undertook to see his mother and how the experience deepened his commitment to nonviolence.
</p><p>(46:20) Becoming a visitor to your pain.
</p><p>Ali describes the people and experiences that give him hope and explains his philosophy of visiting his pain without allowing it to become his permanent home.
</p><p>(48:43) How people can support the Huia Project.
</p><p>Ali encourages people to support constructive organizations and activists working on the ground.
</p><p>(51:13) Grassroots action can create political change.
</p><p>Janessa and Ali discuss the importance of grassroots activism and its potential to influence political decisions. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Guest Bio: </b></p><p>Ali Abu Awwad is a prominent Palestinian activist for peace and the mutual recognition of Palestinian and Israeli identities and belonging to the land.
</p><p>The 2023 winner of the Indira Gandhi Peace Prize and Luxembourg Peace Prize, Ali is a former prisoner of Israel who now works for nonviolence as the only path forward to freedom for both Palestinians and Israelis. </p><p>Ali believes that identity is at the core of this conflict and central to its solution. His initiative, Huia, is a peace initiative activating a new framework of nonviolent ideology and mutual recognition of identities to empower grassroots Palestinian leaders and transform Palestinian, Israeli, and global engagement in this crisis to be pro-solution. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Follow Ali Abu Awwad’s Work: </b></p><p>Huia Project- <a href="https://www.huiaidentity.org/" target="_blank">https://www.huiaidentity.org/</a><a href="https://www.huiaidentity.org/" target="_blank"></a></p><p><br></p><p>This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at www.euphrates.org.<br><br></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Palestinian non-violence leader Ali Abu Awwad about identity, non-violence, hope, and the search for a practical path toward peace. </p><p>Drawing on his experiences during the First and Second Intifadas, imprisonment, a hunger strike, and the death of his brother, Ali describes how his understanding of conflict transformed from resistance and revenge toward nonviolence as an identity and way of life. He argues that Palestinians and Israelis must confront their own fears, anger, stereotypes, and assumptions before they can build a shared future. </p><p>Ali calls on people around the world, particularly Americans, to become “pro-solution,” support constructive grassroots efforts, and engage their political representatives. Above all, he emphasizes steadfastness, shared humanity, and the need to build a future based on dignity, freedom, and mutual responsibility.</p><p><br></p><p> </p><p><b>Key Takeaways: </b></p><p><br></p><p><b>Non-violence is More Than a Strategy
</b></p><p>Non-violence is an identity and a way of life rather than simply a political tactic. For Ali, it means refusing to harm people while actively challenging systems of injustice. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Freedom Requires Recognizing Shared Humanity
</b></p><p>Palestinian freedom should not come at the expense of Jewish lives. Ali's goal is to challenge injustice in a way that allows both sides to recognize each other's humanity. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Non-violence begins with self-reflection
</b></p><p>Palestinians must examine their own leadership, strategies, and assumptions while developing a clear plan for achieving freedom. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Peace Requires More Than Political Agreements
</b></p><p>A sustainable solution must address identity, belonging, dignity, freedom, and people's daily realities. </p><p><br></p><p><b>The International Community Has a Responsibility
</b></p><p>Ali calls on people outside the region, especially Americans, to engage constructively by supporting grassroots organizations, becoming “pro-solution” rather than simply taking sides. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Timestamps:
</b></p><p>(00:00) Nonviolence and the power of humanity.
</p><p>Refusing to harm others can become a powerful form of resistance.
</p><p>(04:33) Twenty years after Encounter Point.
</p><p>Janessa reflects on first encountering Ali through the documentary and asks how attitudes toward nonviolence have changed.
</p><p>(05:28) Despair as an opportunity for change.
</p><p>(06:49) Identity, belonging, and shared destiny.
</p><p>The importance of recognizing both Palestinian and Jewish identities and building a shared future.
(18:37) Building a grassroots movement.
</p><p>(26:53) Finding a realistic political solution.
</p><p>The conditions necessary for a political solution and why Palestinians need freedom in order to contribute to Israel's security.
</p><p>(32:21) The responsibility of the international community.
</p><p>Ali calls for international engagement that recognizes the rights and dignity of both peoples.
(34:09) The First Intifada.
</p><p>Ali explains why he does not consider the First Intifada a fully nonviolent movement and why he believes movements must make a clear commitment to nonviolence.
</p><p>(39:33) The hunger strike and sacrifice.
</p><p>Ali recounts the hunger strike he undertook to see his mother and how the experience deepened his commitment to nonviolence.
</p><p>(46:20) Becoming a visitor to your pain.
</p><p>Ali describes the people and experiences that give him hope and explains his philosophy of visiting his pain without allowing it to become his permanent home.
</p><p>(48:43) How people can support the Huia Project.
</p><p>Ali encourages people to support constructive organizations and activists working on the ground.
</p><p>(51:13) Grassroots action can create political change.
</p><p>Janessa and Ali discuss the importance of grassroots activism and its potential to influence political decisions. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Guest Bio: </b></p><p>Ali Abu Awwad is a prominent Palestinian activist for peace and the mutual recognition of Palestinian and Israeli identities and belonging to the land.
</p><p>The 2023 winner of the Indira Gandhi Peace Prize and Luxembourg Peace Prize, Ali is a former prisoner of Israel who now works for nonviolence as the only path forward to freedom for both Palestinians and Israelis. </p><p>Ali believes that identity is at the core of this conflict and central to its solution. His initiative, Huia, is a peace initiative activating a new framework of nonviolent ideology and mutual recognition of identities to empower grassroots Palestinian leaders and transform Palestinian, Israeli, and global engagement in this crisis to be pro-solution. </p><p><br></p><p><b>Follow Ali Abu Awwad’s Work: </b></p><p>Huia Project- <a href="https://www.huiaidentity.org/" target="_blank">https://www.huiaidentity.org/</a><a href="https://www.huiaidentity.org/" target="_blank"></a></p><p><br></p><p>This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at www.euphrates.org.<br><br></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Palestinian non-violence leader Ali Abu Awwad about identity, non-violence, hope, and the search for a practical path toward peace. Drawing on his experiences during the First and Second...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Palestinian non-violence leader Ali Abu Awwad about identity, non-violence, hope, and the search for a practical path toward peace. 
Drawing on his experiences during the First and Second Intifadas, imprisonment, a hunger strike, and the death of his brother, Ali describes how his understanding of conflict transformed from resistance and revenge toward nonviolence as an identity and way of life. He argues that Palestinians and Israelis must confront their own fears, anger, stereotypes, and assumptions before they can build a shared future. 
Ali calls on people around the world, particularly Americans, to become “pro-solution,” support constructive grassroots efforts, and engage their political representatives. Above all, he emphasizes steadfastness, shared humanity, and the need to build a future based on dignity, freedom, and mutual responsibility.

 
Key Takeaways: 

Non-violence is More Than a Strategy

Non-violence is an identity and a way of life rather than simply a political tactic. For Ali, it means refusing to harm people while actively challenging systems of injustice. 

Freedom Requires Recognizing Shared Humanity

Palestinian freedom should not come at the expense of Jewish lives. Ali's goal is to challenge injustice in a way that allows both sides to recognize each other's humanity. 

Non-violence begins with self-reflection

Palestinians must examine their own leadership, strategies, and assumptions while developing a clear plan for achieving freedom. 

Peace Requires More Than Political Agreements

A sustainable solution must address identity, belonging, dignity, freedom, and people's daily realities. 

The International Community Has a Responsibility

Ali calls on people outside the region, especially Americans, to engage constructively by supporting grassroots organizations, becoming “pro-solution” rather than simply taking sides. 

Timestamps:

(00:00) Nonviolence and the power of humanity.

Refusing to harm others can become a powerful form of resistance.

(04:33) Twenty years after Encounter Point.

Janessa reflects on first encountering Ali through the documentary and asks how attitudes toward nonviolence have changed.

(05:28) Despair as an opportunity for change.

(06:49) Identity, belonging, and shared destiny.

The importance of recognizing both Palestinian and Jewish identities and building a shared future.
(18:37) Building a grassroots movement.

(26:53) Finding a realistic political solution.

The conditions necessary for a political solution and why Palestinians need freedom in order to contribute to Israel's security.

(32:21) The responsibility of the international community.

Ali calls for international engagement that recognizes the rights and dignity of both peoples.
(34:09) The First Intifada.

Ali explains why he does not consider the First Intifada a fully nonviolent movement and why he believes movements must make a clear commitment to nonviolence.

(39:33) The hunger strike and sacrifice.

Ali recounts the hunger strike he undertook to see his mother and how the experience deepened his commitment to nonviolence.

(46:20) Becoming a visitor to your pain.

Ali describes the people and experiences that give him hope and explains his philosophy of visiting his pain without allowing it to become his permanent home.

(48:43) How people can support the Huia Project.

Ali encourages people to support constructive organizations and activists working on the ground.

(51:13) Grassroots action can create political change.

Janessa and Ali discuss the importance of grassroots activism and its potential to influence political decisions. 

Guest Bio: 
Ali Abu Awwad is a prominent Palestinian activist for peace and the mutual recognition of Palestinian and Israeli identities and belonging to the land.

The 2023 winner of the Indira Gandhi Peace Prize and Luxembourg...]]></itunes:summary>
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      <title>Moms Demand Action: How Ordinary Women Built America's Largest Gun Violence Prevention Movement</title>
      <itunes:title>Moms Demand Action: How Ordinary Women Built America's Largest Gun Violence Prevention Movement</itunes:title>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2026 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action and author of Fired Up, joins Janessa Gans Wilder to explore how ordinary people can create extraordinary change through grassroots organizing, courage, and community. </p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Reflecting on the origins of Moms Demand Action after the Sandy Hook school shooting, Shannon shares how a single Facebook post evolved into one of the largest volunteer-led movements in the United States, driven by women who refused to accept gun violence as inevitable.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The conversation examines the nature of power, contrasting domination and force with collective action, resilience, and shared purpose. Shannon discusses the importance of "losing forward," the role Buddhism has played in shaping her leadership, and why letting go of an organization can be an act of strength rather than control. Together, Janessa and Shannon also explore the challenges of building broad social movements, the importance of language in shaping public perception, and the need for more women in positions of leadership. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Throughout the episode, Shannon returns to a simple but powerful idea: hope is not something we wait to feel. It is a daily discipline that calls us to keep showing up, even when change feels slow. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Key Takeaways </b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Grassroots movements create lasting change
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Real political and cultural change often begins locally. Ordinary people organizing in their own communities can build momentum that eventually reshapes national conversations.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b> Leadership requires letting go
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Strong leadership is not about holding onto power. Shannon reflects on stepping away from Moms Demand Action at the right moment, allowing the movement to continue growing beyond its founder. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Hope is an active practice
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Rather than viewing hope as an emotion, Shannon describes it as a discipline that requires choosing action over cynicism, especially during difficult times. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Women's leadership is essential
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Increasing women's representation in leadership and public office is critical for creating more equitable policies and stronger communities. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Community transforms both movements and people
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Activism changes more than public policy. It also helps individuals discover their own voices, build lasting relationships, and recognize their capacity to make a difference. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Timestamps:
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(00:47) Rethinking what power really means
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(05:27) Choosing to double down- The threats Shannon faced after founding Moms Demand Action and the moment she decided to continue instead of backing away.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(07:20) Discovering the power of local action- After a federal gun safety bill failed, volunteers proved that meaningful change could begin in states, cities, and local communities.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(11:52) Buddhism, resilience, and losing forward
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(15:42) Founder syndrome and letting go- Organizations must eventually outgrow their founders
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(18:00) Listening, learning, and expanding the movement
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(20:41) The power of language and messaging- Janessa and Shannon examine how words shape public opinion and why redefining ideas like "peace" and "gun safety" matters.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(23:18) Collaboration over competition- The discussion turns to coalition-building, funding challenges, and the balance between organizational identity and collective impact.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(31:00) Building the new while confronting the old- Shannon reflects on adapting strategies as political movements evolve and explains why creating new systems is as important as dismantling harmful ones.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(38:37) Hope is a discipline- Shannon shares the philosophy that sustained activism depends on choosing hope every day rather than waiting to feel optimistic.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(40:53) What makes volunteers stay- The conversation concludes with lessons from organizing millions of volunteers and why celebrating wins and building community are key to lasting movements. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Guest Bio: </b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Shannon Watts is the founder of Moms Demand Action, the largest grassroots movement in the United States dedicated to ending gun violence. She launched the organization following the Sandy Hook school shooting, growing it from a single Facebook post into a nationwide network of millions of volunteers. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Shannon is also the author of Fight Like a Mother and Fired Up, where she encourages women to embrace their power in civic life, leadership, and personal growth. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Today, she focuses on empowering women through writing, coaching, and community-building initiatives. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Follow Shannon Watts:</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b><br></b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b> </b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Website: <a href="https://shannonwatts.org" target="_blank">https://shannonwatts.org</a>
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/shannonrwatts" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/shannonrwatts</a>
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">X (Twitter): <a href="https://x.com/shannonrwatts" target="_blank">https://x.com/shannonrwatts</a></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr">This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org/">www.euphrates.org.</a></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><br></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action and author of Fired Up, joins Janessa Gans Wilder to explore how ordinary people can create extraordinary change through grassroots organizing, courage, and community. </p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Reflecting on the origins of Moms Demand Action after the Sandy Hook school shooting, Shannon shares how a single Facebook post evolved into one of the largest volunteer-led movements in the United States, driven by women who refused to accept gun violence as inevitable.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The conversation examines the nature of power, contrasting domination and force with collective action, resilience, and shared purpose. Shannon discusses the importance of "losing forward," the role Buddhism has played in shaping her leadership, and why letting go of an organization can be an act of strength rather than control. Together, Janessa and Shannon also explore the challenges of building broad social movements, the importance of language in shaping public perception, and the need for more women in positions of leadership. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Throughout the episode, Shannon returns to a simple but powerful idea: hope is not something we wait to feel. It is a daily discipline that calls us to keep showing up, even when change feels slow. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Key Takeaways </b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Grassroots movements create lasting change
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Real political and cultural change often begins locally. Ordinary people organizing in their own communities can build momentum that eventually reshapes national conversations.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b> Leadership requires letting go
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Strong leadership is not about holding onto power. Shannon reflects on stepping away from Moms Demand Action at the right moment, allowing the movement to continue growing beyond its founder. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Hope is an active practice
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Rather than viewing hope as an emotion, Shannon describes it as a discipline that requires choosing action over cynicism, especially during difficult times. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Women's leadership is essential
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Increasing women's representation in leadership and public office is critical for creating more equitable policies and stronger communities. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Community transforms both movements and people
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Activism changes more than public policy. It also helps individuals discover their own voices, build lasting relationships, and recognize their capacity to make a difference. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Timestamps:
</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(00:47) Rethinking what power really means
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(05:27) Choosing to double down- The threats Shannon faced after founding Moms Demand Action and the moment she decided to continue instead of backing away.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(07:20) Discovering the power of local action- After a federal gun safety bill failed, volunteers proved that meaningful change could begin in states, cities, and local communities.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(11:52) Buddhism, resilience, and losing forward
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(15:42) Founder syndrome and letting go- Organizations must eventually outgrow their founders
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(18:00) Listening, learning, and expanding the movement
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(20:41) The power of language and messaging- Janessa and Shannon examine how words shape public opinion and why redefining ideas like "peace" and "gun safety" matters.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(23:18) Collaboration over competition- The discussion turns to coalition-building, funding challenges, and the balance between organizational identity and collective impact.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(31:00) Building the new while confronting the old- Shannon reflects on adapting strategies as political movements evolve and explains why creating new systems is as important as dismantling harmful ones.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(38:37) Hope is a discipline- Shannon shares the philosophy that sustained activism depends on choosing hope every day rather than waiting to feel optimistic.
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">(40:53) What makes volunteers stay- The conversation concludes with lessons from organizing millions of volunteers and why celebrating wins and building community are key to lasting movements. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Guest Bio: </b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Shannon Watts is the founder of Moms Demand Action, the largest grassroots movement in the United States dedicated to ending gun violence. She launched the organization following the Sandy Hook school shooting, growing it from a single Facebook post into a nationwide network of millions of volunteers. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Shannon is also the author of Fight Like a Mother and Fired Up, where she encourages women to embrace their power in civic life, leadership, and personal growth. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Today, she focuses on empowering women through writing, coaching, and community-building initiatives. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b>Follow Shannon Watts:</b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b><br></b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b> </b></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Website: <a href="https://shannonwatts.org" target="_blank">https://shannonwatts.org</a>
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/shannonrwatts" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/shannonrwatts</a>
</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">X (Twitter): <a href="https://x.com/shannonrwatts" target="_blank">https://x.com/shannonrwatts</a></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr">This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org/">www.euphrates.org.</a></p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p><br></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <itunes:subtitle>Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action and author of Fired Up, joins Janessa Gans Wilder to explore how ordinary people can create extraordinary change through grassroots organizing, courage, and community. Reflecting on the origins of Moms Demand...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action and author of Fired Up, joins Janessa Gans Wilder to explore how ordinary people can create extraordinary change through grassroots organizing, courage, and community. 
Reflecting on the origins of Moms Demand Action after the Sandy Hook school shooting, Shannon shares how a single Facebook post evolved into one of the largest volunteer-led movements in the United States, driven by women who refused to accept gun violence as inevitable.

The conversation examines the nature of power, contrasting domination and force with collective action, resilience, and shared purpose. Shannon discusses the importance of "losing forward," the role Buddhism has played in shaping her leadership, and why letting go of an organization can be an act of strength rather than control. Together, Janessa and Shannon also explore the challenges of building broad social movements, the importance of language in shaping public perception, and the need for more women in positions of leadership. 
Throughout the episode, Shannon returns to a simple but powerful idea: hope is not something we wait to feel. It is a daily discipline that calls us to keep showing up, even when change feels slow. 

Key Takeaways 

Grassroots movements create lasting change

Real political and cultural change often begins locally. Ordinary people organizing in their own communities can build momentum that eventually reshapes national conversations.

 Leadership requires letting go

Strong leadership is not about holding onto power. Shannon reflects on stepping away from Moms Demand Action at the right moment, allowing the movement to continue growing beyond its founder. 

Hope is an active practice

Rather than viewing hope as an emotion, Shannon describes it as a discipline that requires choosing action over cynicism, especially during difficult times. 

Women's leadership is essential

Increasing women's representation in leadership and public office is critical for creating more equitable policies and stronger communities. 

Community transforms both movements and people

Activism changes more than public policy. It also helps individuals discover their own voices, build lasting relationships, and recognize their capacity to make a difference. 

Timestamps:

(00:47) Rethinking what power really means

(05:27) Choosing to double down- The threats Shannon faced after founding Moms Demand Action and the moment she decided to continue instead of backing away.

(07:20) Discovering the power of local action- After a federal gun safety bill failed, volunteers proved that meaningful change could begin in states, cities, and local communities.&nbsp;
(11:52) Buddhism, resilience, and losing forward

(15:42) Founder syndrome and letting go- Organizations must eventually outgrow their founders

(18:00) Listening, learning, and expanding the movement

(20:41) The power of language and messaging- Janessa and Shannon examine how words shape public opinion and why redefining ideas like "peace" and "gun safety" matters.

(23:18) Collaboration over competition- The discussion turns to coalition-building, funding challenges, and the balance between organizational identity and collective impact.

(31:00) Building the new while confronting the old- Shannon reflects on adapting strategies as political movements evolve and explains why creating new systems is as important as dismantling harmful ones.

(38:37) Hope is a discipline- Shannon shares the philosophy that sustained activism depends on choosing hope every day rather than waiting to feel optimistic.

(40:53) What makes volunteers stay- The conversation concludes with lessons from organizing millions of volunteers and why celebrating wins and building community are key to lasting movements. 

Guest Bio: 

Shannon Watts is the founder of Moms Demand Action, the largest grassroots movement in the United States dedicated to ending gun violence. She...]]></itunes:summary>
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      <title>Can Music Bring Peace? The Healing Power of Harmony with Maestro Karim Wasfi</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Today on Peace is Power , Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with renowned Iraqi cellist, composer, and conductor Karim Wasfi about the role of music, culture, and human connection in the midst of violence and division.&nbsp;</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Drawing from his experiences performing in Baghdad after car bombings and working in communities affected by war, Maestro Karim Wasfi describes music as a force that can reclaim humanity, restore dignity, and reconnect people to themselves and one another.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601">Throughout the conversation, Wasfi reflects on the deeper meaning of peace, arguing that it is not passive or weak, but one of the most strategically powerful forces available to humanity.&nbsp; </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> The discussion explores harmony as both a musical and social principle, the importance of arts education, and the urgent need to move beyond fear, polarization, and ideological conflict.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Key Takeaways:</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b><br></b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Reclaiming Humanity Through Music </b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Karim Wasfi explains why he brought his cello to the site of a Baghdad car bombing, describing it as an act of reclaiming space for humanity and resisting fear through beauty and connection. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Peace Is a Powerful Force </b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Rather than viewing peace as passive, Wasfi argues that peace creates endurance, legitimacy, trust, and long-term resilience in individuals and societies.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Art and Culture Are Essential, Not Peripheral </b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> The conversation emphasizes that music, education, and culture are not luxuries but necessary foundations for healing, identity, and human dignity.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Harmony Begins Within </b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Wasfi describes harmony as both a musical principle and a way of living, encouraging people to cultivate inner coherence and deep listening as a path toward collective peace.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>A Vision for Global Connection </b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Wasfi proposes the idea of a worldwide “Day of Harmony,” where people across cultures and time zones connect through music, silence, and shared listening as an act of collective peacebuilding.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Timestamps:</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (00:13) Music, Iraq, and the search for harmony-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa introduces the episode and reflects on how music shaped her understanding of connection and healing during her time in Iraq.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (04:07) Playing cello at the site of a bombing-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim explains why he performed in the aftermath of violence to reclaim space for humanity and resist fear.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (06:44) The healing power of sound-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A discussion on harmony, frequency, and how music creates connection within ourselves and with others.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (11:33) Conducting harmony in divided societies-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim shares how leading an orchestra in Iraq becomes a practice in trust, collaboration, and coexistence.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (17:31) Courage in the face of threats and extremism-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim reflects on continuing his work despite danger and why peacebuilding must become a way of life rather than a project.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (24:53) Performing near the front lines in Mosul-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim recounts a powerful encounter with a young girl fleeing ISIS-controlled areas who recognized humanity in music.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (31:47) Why artists belong at the center of diplomacy-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The conversation explores the role of culture and storytelling in peacebuilding and international relations.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (34:00) Reclaiming the arts in modern society-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa and Karim discuss arts education, AI, and why creativity is essential for humanity’s future.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (38:00) Creating spaces for harmony and deep listening-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim describes community gatherings in Iraq centered on shared sound, silence, and expression.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (46:38) A global day of harmony-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim shares his vision for a worldwide movement where people connect through music, listening, and collective peace practices.</span></p><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Guest bio:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Maestro Karim Wasfi serves as the Chief Conductor and Director of the Iraqi National Symphony Orchestra, utilizing his distinguished musical career to champion creativity as a profound medium for peace.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"> As the founder of the Center for Creativity-Peace through Arts, he mentors youth and orphans from diverse backgrounds, fostering reconciliation through the shared language of music, and established the Middle East’s inaugural class for female conductors.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"> Renowned globally for his courageous performances at the sites of car bombings, Wasfi’s artistic resistance has evolved into the “Music for Peace” campaign, an initiative dedicated to restoring human connection and resisting the cycle of violence through cultural reclamation.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p></span><p dir="ltr"> This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org/">www.euphrates.org.</a> </p><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><p dir="ltr"> <br><br></p></span><br><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Today on Peace is Power , Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with renowned Iraqi cellist, composer, and conductor Karim Wasfi about the role of music, culture, and human connection in the midst of violence and division.&nbsp;</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Drawing from his experiences performing in Baghdad after car bombings and working in communities affected by war, Maestro Karim Wasfi describes music as a force that can reclaim humanity, restore dignity, and reconnect people to themselves and one another.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601">Throughout the conversation, Wasfi reflects on the deeper meaning of peace, arguing that it is not passive or weak, but one of the most strategically powerful forces available to humanity.&nbsp; </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> The discussion explores harmony as both a musical and social principle, the importance of arts education, and the urgent need to move beyond fear, polarization, and ideological conflict.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Key Takeaways:</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b><br></b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Reclaiming Humanity Through Music </b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Karim Wasfi explains why he brought his cello to the site of a Baghdad car bombing, describing it as an act of reclaiming space for humanity and resisting fear through beauty and connection. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Peace Is a Powerful Force </b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Rather than viewing peace as passive, Wasfi argues that peace creates endurance, legitimacy, trust, and long-term resilience in individuals and societies.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Art and Culture Are Essential, Not Peripheral </b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> The conversation emphasizes that music, education, and culture are not luxuries but necessary foundations for healing, identity, and human dignity.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Harmony Begins Within </b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Wasfi describes harmony as both a musical principle and a way of living, encouraging people to cultivate inner coherence and deep listening as a path toward collective peace.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>A Vision for Global Connection </b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> Wasfi proposes the idea of a worldwide “Day of Harmony,” where people across cultures and time zones connect through music, silence, and shared listening as an act of collective peacebuilding.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><b>Timestamps:</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (00:13) Music, Iraq, and the search for harmony-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa introduces the episode and reflects on how music shaped her understanding of connection and healing during her time in Iraq.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (04:07) Playing cello at the site of a bombing-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim explains why he performed in the aftermath of violence to reclaim space for humanity and resist fear.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (06:44) The healing power of sound-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A discussion on harmony, frequency, and how music creates connection within ourselves and with others.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (11:33) Conducting harmony in divided societies-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim shares how leading an orchestra in Iraq becomes a practice in trust, collaboration, and coexistence.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (17:31) Courage in the face of threats and extremism-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim reflects on continuing his work despite danger and why peacebuilding must become a way of life rather than a project.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (24:53) Performing near the front lines in Mosul-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim recounts a powerful encounter with a young girl fleeing ISIS-controlled areas who recognized humanity in music.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (31:47) Why artists belong at the center of diplomacy-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The conversation explores the role of culture and storytelling in peacebuilding and international relations.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (34:00) Reclaiming the arts in modern society-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa and Karim discuss arts education, AI, and why creativity is essential for humanity’s future.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (38:00) Creating spaces for harmony and deep listening-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim describes community gatherings in Iraq centered on shared sound, silence, and expression.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"> (46:38) A global day of harmony-&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Karim shares his vision for a worldwide movement where people connect through music, listening, and collective peace practices.</span></p><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Guest bio:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Maestro Karim Wasfi serves as the Chief Conductor and Director of the Iraqi National Symphony Orchestra, utilizing his distinguished musical career to champion creativity as a profound medium for peace.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"> As the founder of the Center for Creativity-Peace through Arts, he mentors youth and orphans from diverse backgrounds, fostering reconciliation through the shared language of music, and established the Middle East’s inaugural class for female conductors.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"> Renowned globally for his courageous performances at the sites of car bombings, Wasfi’s artistic resistance has evolved into the “Music for Peace” campaign, an initiative dedicated to restoring human connection and resisting the cycle of violence through cultural reclamation.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p></span><p dir="ltr"> This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org/">www.euphrates.org.</a> </p><span id="docs-internal-guid-670e7f7d-7fff-5b3d-66cf-4e0d41ebb601"><p dir="ltr"> <br><br></p></span><br><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <itunes:subtitle>Today on Peace is Power , Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with renowned Iraqi cellist, composer, and conductor Karim Wasfi about the role of music, culture, and human connection in the midst of violence and division.&amp;nbsp;  Drawing from his experiences...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today on Peace is Power , Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with renowned Iraqi cellist, composer, and conductor Karim Wasfi about the role of music, culture, and human connection in the midst of violence and division.&nbsp;
 
 Drawing from his experiences performing in Baghdad after car bombings and working in communities affected by war, Maestro Karim Wasfi describes music as a force that can reclaim humanity, restore dignity, and reconnect people to themselves and one another.
Throughout the conversation, Wasfi reflects on the deeper meaning of peace, arguing that it is not passive or weak, but one of the most strategically powerful forces available to humanity.&nbsp; 
 The discussion explores harmony as both a musical and social principle, the importance of arts education, and the urgent need to move beyond fear, polarization, and ideological conflict.

Key Takeaways:

Reclaiming Humanity Through Music 
 Karim Wasfi explains why he brought his cello to the site of a Baghdad car bombing, describing it as an act of reclaiming space for humanity and resisting fear through beauty and connection. 

Peace Is a Powerful Force 
 Rather than viewing peace as passive, Wasfi argues that peace creates endurance, legitimacy, trust, and long-term resilience in individuals and societies.

 
Art and Culture Are Essential, Not Peripheral 
 The conversation emphasizes that music, education, and culture are not luxuries but necessary foundations for healing, identity, and human dignity.

 
Harmony Begins Within 
 Wasfi describes harmony as both a musical principle and a way of living, encouraging people to cultivate inner coherence and deep listening as a path toward collective peace.

 
A Vision for Global Connection 
 Wasfi proposes the idea of a worldwide “Day of Harmony,” where people across cultures and time zones connect through music, silence, and shared listening as an act of collective peacebuilding.

Timestamps:
 (00:13) Music, Iraq, and the search for harmony-&nbsp;Janessa introduces the episode and reflects on how music shaped her understanding of connection and healing during her time in Iraq.
 (04:07) Playing cello at the site of a bombing-&nbsp;Karim explains why he performed in the aftermath of violence to reclaim space for humanity and resist fear.
 (06:44) The healing power of sound-&nbsp;A discussion on harmony, frequency, and how music creates connection within ourselves and with others.
 (11:33) Conducting harmony in divided societies-&nbsp;Karim shares how leading an orchestra in Iraq becomes a practice in trust, collaboration, and coexistence.
 (17:31) Courage in the face of threats and extremism-&nbsp;Karim reflects on continuing his work despite danger and why peacebuilding must become a way of life rather than a project.
 (24:53) Performing near the front lines in Mosul-&nbsp;Karim recounts a powerful encounter with a young girl fleeing ISIS-controlled areas who recognized humanity in music.
 (31:47) Why artists belong at the center of diplomacy-&nbsp;The conversation explores the role of culture and storytelling in peacebuilding and international relations.
 (34:00) Reclaiming the arts in modern society-&nbsp;Janessa and Karim discuss arts education, AI, and why creativity is essential for humanity’s future.
 (38:00) Creating spaces for harmony and deep listening-&nbsp;Karim describes community gatherings in Iraq centered on shared sound, silence, and expression.
 (46:38) A global day of harmony-&nbsp;Karim shares his vision for a worldwide movement where people connect through music, listening, and collective peace practices.

 Guest bio:

 
 Maestro Karim Wasfi serves as the Chief Conductor and Director of the Iraqi National Symphony Orchestra, utilizing his distinguished musical career to champion creativity as a profound medium for peace.&nbsp; 
 As the founder of the Center for Creativity-Peace through Arts, he mentors youth and orphans from diverse backgrounds, fostering...]]></itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p></p><p>In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Dr. Scilla Elworthy about what it really takes to build peace in a world that continues to invest heavily in war. </p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A three-time Nobel Peace Prize nominee and founder of both Oxford Research Group and Peace Direct, Dr. Elworthy reflects on decades of work alongside peacebuilders, military leaders, and women confronting violence on the front lines.
Their conversation explores why war remains so heavily funded while peacebuilding is chronically under-resourced, and why Dr. Elworthy believes women’s leadership, communication, and courageous listening are essential to changing that.&nbsp;</span><b id="docs-internal-guid-b7be9f72-7fff-3151-25c9-355fa7e91bae"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-b7be9f72-7fff-3151-25c9-355fa7e91bae"> Throughout the episode, Dr. Elworthy returns to one central idea: the heart is not separate from effective action, but a source of wisdom, courage, and clarity.&nbsp; </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-b7be9f72-7fff-3151-25c9-355fa7e91bae"> Together, she and Janessa consider how people can stay open in the face of grief, resist despair, and cultivate the inner fire needed to act for peace in this moment. </span></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p><b>Key Takeaways:</b></p><p><b><br></b></p><p><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">Peace is underfunded, not ineffective </b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">Dr. Elworthy argues that peacebuilding is often dismissed not because it fails, but because it is poorly funded, poorly publicized, and overshadowed by the political and economic incentives of war. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">Women have repeatedly helped stop violent conflict </b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"> The episode highlights how women, often working with minimal resources, have led some of the most effective peace efforts in conflict zones, including the women’s movement that helped end Liberia’s civil war. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Communication and listening are forms of power</span></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"> For Dr. Elworthy, peacebuilding is rooted in communication: deep listening, moral courage, persistence, and the ability to engage even those in positions of military or political power. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">The heart is a practical guide, not a sentimental idea </b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">Dr. Elworthy describes the heart as a reliable source of truth and discernment, especially in difficult moments when strategy alone is not enough. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">Peacebuilding can be taught and practiced </b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"> Dr. Scilla Elworthy makes the case for a more accessible, story-driven approach to peace education, one that helps people begin where they are, build courage, and learn to act in their own communities. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><b>Timestamps:</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><br><b id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (05:00) Heartbreak, hope, and learning from peacebuilders- Dr. Elworthy reflects on a lifetime of witnessing war and explains why she is not despairing now despite the state of the world. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (06:01) Why is war funded while peace is neglected? If people say they want peace, why do governments and institutions keep investing in war? </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (10:54) The communications problem of peace- Dr. Elworthy argues that peacebuilding successes are not visible enough, and that the world needs a far stronger public narrative around what peacebuilders actually accomplish. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (12:30) Liberia and the power of organized women- Dr. Elworthy recounts how Liberian women used collective nonviolent action, public pressure, and persistence to help end a 14-year civil war. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (17:12) The overlooked skills of peacebuilding- The qualities peacebuilders need most, including listening, resilience, courage, self-belief, and the ability to work across differences. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (19:14) Why conversations with military leaders matter- Dr. Elworthy and Janessa discuss the importance of engaging military figures directly, and why those conversations can open unexpected space for change. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (24:18) Training people to speak for peace- Dr. Elworthy outlines the need for a larger cohort of people trained in advocacy, resilience, persuasion, and courageous communication. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (26:18) Listening to the heart as a peace practice- Dr. Elworthy shares her contemplative practice of moving attention from the mind to the heart and listening for guidance. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (30:50) Can anyone become a peacebuilder?- Describing peacebuilding as something available to anyone willing to nurture the “quiet fire” within them. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (37:04) Where to begin in peacebuilding- Practical encouragement for newcomers: read widely, get inspired by stories of peace, connect with others, and take one step at a time. </span></p><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><br></span><p><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><b id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><strong>Guest bio:</strong></b></b></b></b><br><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"><b> Dr. Scilla Elworthy</b> is a three times Nobel Peace Prize nominee for her work with Oxford Research Group to develop effective dialogue between nuclear weapons policy-makers worldwide and their critics. She now leads The Business Plan for Peace to help prevent violent conflict and build sustainable peace throughout the world, because it is possible; based on her latest books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Business-Plan-Peace-Building-Without/dp/1999816439" style=""> The Business Plan for Peace: Building a World Without War </a> (2017), <a href="https://scillaelworthy.gumroad.com/l/yeabnv?layout=profile" style=""> The Mighty Heart: How to Transform Conflict </a> (2020), and <a href="https://scillaelworthy.gumroad.com/l/srkrlq?layout=profile" style=""> The Mighty Heart in Action </a> (2022). </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"> Dr. Elworthy founded Peace Direct in 2002 to fund, promote and learn from local peace-builders in conflict areas, was awarded the Niwano Peace Prize in 2003 and the Goi Peace Award in 2023. She advised Peter Gabriel, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Sir Richard Branson in setting up ‘The Elders’. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860">Her TED talk on nonviolence has been viewed by over 1,500,000 people.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><b> Follow Dr. Elworthy:</b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><b><br></b></b></b><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860" style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><a href="https://www.scillaelworthy.com/books/the-business-plan-for-peace/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">The Business Plan for Peace by Scilla Elworthy</a></b></b></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860" style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><br></b></b><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860" style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><a href="https://scillaelworthy.com/">Website</a></b></b></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860" style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><br></b></b><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860" style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/scilla_elworthy/">Instagram</a></b></b></p> <p></p><p><br></p><p></p><p dir="ltr"> This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org/">www.euphrates.org.</a> </p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Dr. Scilla Elworthy about what it really takes to build peace in a world that continues to invest heavily in war. </p><p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A three-time Nobel Peace Prize nominee and founder of both Oxford Research Group and Peace Direct, Dr. Elworthy reflects on decades of work alongside peacebuilders, military leaders, and women confronting violence on the front lines.
Their conversation explores why war remains so heavily funded while peacebuilding is chronically under-resourced, and why Dr. Elworthy believes women’s leadership, communication, and courageous listening are essential to changing that.&nbsp;</span><b id="docs-internal-guid-b7be9f72-7fff-3151-25c9-355fa7e91bae"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-b7be9f72-7fff-3151-25c9-355fa7e91bae"> Throughout the episode, Dr. Elworthy returns to one central idea: the heart is not separate from effective action, but a source of wisdom, courage, and clarity.&nbsp; </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-b7be9f72-7fff-3151-25c9-355fa7e91bae"> Together, she and Janessa consider how people can stay open in the face of grief, resist despair, and cultivate the inner fire needed to act for peace in this moment. </span></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p><b>Key Takeaways:</b></p><p><b><br></b></p><p><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">Peace is underfunded, not ineffective </b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">Dr. Elworthy argues that peacebuilding is often dismissed not because it fails, but because it is poorly funded, poorly publicized, and overshadowed by the political and economic incentives of war. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">Women have repeatedly helped stop violent conflict </b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"> The episode highlights how women, often working with minimal resources, have led some of the most effective peace efforts in conflict zones, including the women’s movement that helped end Liberia’s civil war. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Communication and listening are forms of power</span></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"> For Dr. Elworthy, peacebuilding is rooted in communication: deep listening, moral courage, persistence, and the ability to engage even those in positions of military or political power. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">The heart is a practical guide, not a sentimental idea </b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">Dr. Elworthy describes the heart as a reliable source of truth and discernment, especially in difficult moments when strategy alone is not enough. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e">Peacebuilding can be taught and practiced </b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"> Dr. Scilla Elworthy makes the case for a more accessible, story-driven approach to peace education, one that helps people begin where they are, build courage, and learn to act in their own communities. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><b>Timestamps:</b></span></p><p dir="ltr"><br><b id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (05:00) Heartbreak, hope, and learning from peacebuilders- Dr. Elworthy reflects on a lifetime of witnessing war and explains why she is not despairing now despite the state of the world. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (06:01) Why is war funded while peace is neglected? If people say they want peace, why do governments and institutions keep investing in war? </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (10:54) The communications problem of peace- Dr. Elworthy argues that peacebuilding successes are not visible enough, and that the world needs a far stronger public narrative around what peacebuilders actually accomplish. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (12:30) Liberia and the power of organized women- Dr. Elworthy recounts how Liberian women used collective nonviolent action, public pressure, and persistence to help end a 14-year civil war. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (17:12) The overlooked skills of peacebuilding- The qualities peacebuilders need most, including listening, resilience, courage, self-belief, and the ability to work across differences. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (19:14) Why conversations with military leaders matter- Dr. Elworthy and Janessa discuss the importance of engaging military figures directly, and why those conversations can open unexpected space for change. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (24:18) Training people to speak for peace- Dr. Elworthy outlines the need for a larger cohort of people trained in advocacy, resilience, persuasion, and courageous communication. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (26:18) Listening to the heart as a peace practice- Dr. Elworthy shares her contemplative practice of moving attention from the mind to the heart and listening for guidance. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (30:50) Can anyone become a peacebuilder?- Describing peacebuilding as something available to anyone willing to nurture the “quiet fire” within them. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-ea3c1146-7fff-d58a-9d42-4e42d2d28c2e"> (37:04) Where to begin in peacebuilding- Practical encouragement for newcomers: read widely, get inspired by stories of peace, connect with others, and take one step at a time. </span></p><span id="docs-internal-guid-20a1354a-7fff-b8e8-5a26-d533a4ecfb0e"><br></span><p><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><b id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><strong>Guest bio:</strong></b></b></b></b><br><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"><b> Dr. Scilla Elworthy</b> is a three times Nobel Peace Prize nominee for her work with Oxford Research Group to develop effective dialogue between nuclear weapons policy-makers worldwide and their critics. She now leads The Business Plan for Peace to help prevent violent conflict and build sustainable peace throughout the world, because it is possible; based on her latest books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Business-Plan-Peace-Building-Without/dp/1999816439" style=""> The Business Plan for Peace: Building a World Without War </a> (2017), <a href="https://scillaelworthy.gumroad.com/l/yeabnv?layout=profile" style=""> The Mighty Heart: How to Transform Conflict </a> (2020), and <a href="https://scillaelworthy.gumroad.com/l/srkrlq?layout=profile" style=""> The Mighty Heart in Action </a> (2022). </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"> Dr. Elworthy founded Peace Direct in 2002 to fund, promote and learn from local peace-builders in conflict areas, was awarded the Niwano Peace Prize in 2003 and the Goi Peace Award in 2023. She advised Peter Gabriel, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Sir Richard Branson in setting up ‘The Elders’. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860">Her TED talk on nonviolence has been viewed by over 1,500,000 people.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><b> Follow Dr. Elworthy:</b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><b><br></b></b></b><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860" style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><a href="https://www.scillaelworthy.com/books/the-business-plan-for-peace/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">The Business Plan for Peace by Scilla Elworthy</a></b></b></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860" style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><br></b></b><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860" style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><a href="https://scillaelworthy.com/">Website</a></b></b></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860" style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><br></b></b><b id="docs-internal-guid-2c5de12f-7fff-f025-c22c-2d1601db0860" style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><b id="docs-internal-guid-092a4bfe-7fff-90ed-5b67-53efe301bcf6"><a href="https://www.instagram.com/scilla_elworthy/">Instagram</a></b></b></p> <p></p><p><br></p><p></p><p dir="ltr"> This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org/">www.euphrates.org.</a> </p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Dr. Scilla Elworthy about what it really takes to build peace in a world that continues to invest heavily in war. A three-time Nobel Peace Prize nominee and founder of both Oxford Research...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Dr. Scilla Elworthy about what it really takes to build peace in a world that continues to invest heavily in war. 
A three-time Nobel Peace Prize nominee and founder of both Oxford Research Group and Peace Direct, Dr. Elworthy reflects on decades of work alongside peacebuilders, military leaders, and women confronting violence on the front lines.
Their conversation explores why war remains so heavily funded while peacebuilding is chronically under-resourced, and why Dr. Elworthy believes women’s leadership, communication, and courageous listening are essential to changing that.&nbsp;
 Throughout the episode, Dr. Elworthy returns to one central idea: the heart is not separate from effective action, but a source of wisdom, courage, and clarity.&nbsp; 
 Together, she and Janessa consider how people can stay open in the face of grief, resist despair, and cultivate the inner fire needed to act for peace in this moment. 

 
Key Takeaways:

Peace is underfunded, not ineffective 
Dr. Elworthy argues that peacebuilding is often dismissed not because it fails, but because it is poorly funded, poorly publicized, and overshadowed by the political and economic incentives of war. 

Women have repeatedly helped stop violent conflict 
 The episode highlights how women, often working with minimal resources, have led some of the most effective peace efforts in conflict zones, including the women’s movement that helped end Liberia’s civil war. 

Communication and listening are forms of power
 For Dr. Elworthy, peacebuilding is rooted in communication: deep listening, moral courage, persistence, and the ability to engage even those in positions of military or political power. 

The heart is a practical guide, not a sentimental idea 
Dr. Elworthy describes the heart as a reliable source of truth and discernment, especially in difficult moments when strategy alone is not enough. 

Peacebuilding can be taught and practiced 
 Dr. Scilla Elworthy makes the case for a more accessible, story-driven approach to peace education, one that helps people begin where they are, build courage, and learn to act in their own communities. 

Timestamps:

 (05:00) Heartbreak, hope, and learning from peacebuilders- Dr. Elworthy reflects on a lifetime of witnessing war and explains why she is not despairing now despite the state of the world. 
 (06:01) Why is war funded while peace is neglected? If people say they want peace, why do governments and institutions keep investing in war? 
 (10:54) The communications problem of peace- Dr. Elworthy argues that peacebuilding successes are not visible enough, and that the world needs a far stronger public narrative around what peacebuilders actually accomplish. 
 (12:30) Liberia and the power of organized women- Dr. Elworthy recounts how Liberian women used collective nonviolent action, public pressure, and persistence to help end a 14-year civil war. 
 (17:12) The overlooked skills of peacebuilding- The qualities peacebuilders need most, including listening, resilience, courage, self-belief, and the ability to work across differences. 
 (19:14) Why conversations with military leaders matter- Dr. Elworthy and Janessa discuss the importance of engaging military figures directly, and why those conversations can open unexpected space for change. 
 (24:18) Training people to speak for peace- Dr. Elworthy outlines the need for a larger cohort of people trained in advocacy, resilience, persuasion, and courageous communication. 
 (26:18) Listening to the heart as a peace practice- Dr. Elworthy shares her contemplative practice of moving attention from the mind to the heart and listening for guidance. 
 (30:50) Can anyone become a peacebuilder?- Describing peacebuilding as something available to anyone willing to nurture the “quiet fire” within them. 
 (37:04) Where to begin in peacebuilding- Practical encouragement for newcomers:...]]></itunes:summary>
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      <title>A Sacred Awakening into Sacred Activism with Sami Awad</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"> In this episode of Peace is Power, host Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Sami Awad, a Palestinian nonviolence practitioner, founder of Holy Land Trust, and co-director of Nonviolence International, about resistance, consciousness, and the spiritual foundations of peacebuilding.&nbsp; </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"> Sami describes the daily realities Palestinians face under occupation, including checkpoints, settler violence, and growing hopelessness. He reflects on the profound influence of his grandmother, who chose forgiveness and peacemaking after losing her husband and home during the Nakba. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"> Together, Janessa and Sami explore how systems of fear, domination, and separation shape human behavior and sustain violence across generations. The conversation ultimately becomes a call toward what Sami describes as “sacred awakening into sacred activism,” where awareness leads not to withdrawal, but to courageous engagement in the work of healing and transformation.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"><b>Key Takeaways:</b></span></p><p></p><p><br></p><p><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Nonviolence as Empowerment </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"> Sami describes nonviolence not as passivity, but as a deeply empowering form of resistance that dissolves fear and restores human dignity. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Awareness Changes Everything </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"> The conversation explores how consciousness shapes systems of oppression, and how awareness interrupts automatic patterns of fear, separation, and domination. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Inner Work and Outer Action Are Connected </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"> True peacebuilding requires both personal transformation and active resistance to unjust systems and structures. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Fear Sustains Systems of Power </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"> From military occupation to modern consumer culture, systems of control depend on fear, conformity, and silence to survive. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Community Is Essential for Transformation </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"> Neither activism nor spiritual growth can happen in isolation. Healing, resistance, and courage are strengthened through collective support and shared purpose. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Timestamps:</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60" style="">(00:00) Awakening and the loss of fear-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami reflects on how awareness removes the ability to remain silent in the face of injustice.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (05:29) Returning to Bethlehem amid escalating violence-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami describes daily life under occupation, including checkpoints, settler attacks, and growing despair among Palestinians.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (10:09) His grandmother’s response to the Nakba-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">After losing her husband and becoming a refugee, Sami’s grandmother chose forgiveness, peacemaking, and nonviolent resistance.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (17:11) The olive tree moment that changed his life-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">At age 12, Sami experienced the power of nonviolent resistance while planting olive trees on threatened land.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (20:27) Losing fear through nonviolence-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami and Janessa discuss how nonviolent action can create an inner sense of calm, courage, and moral power.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (23:22) His uncle’s deportation for nonviolent activism-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami recalls watching his uncle deported by Israeli authorities and realizing how threatening nonviolence can be to systems of power.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (28:01) Consciousness, systems, and separation-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The conversation shifts toward how fear-based systems shape identity, conflict, and collective behavior.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (35:40) Jesus as a model of sacred resistance-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami examines how Jesus combined spiritual transformation with direct resistance to oppressive systems.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425">(41:30) Inner transformation and dismantling systems-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The discussion explores why personal healing and structural change must happen simultaneously.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"> (45:50) Where fertile ground for change exists today-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami reflects on why resistance movements in privileged societies may be essential to global transformation.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"> (50:19) The discipline missing from modern peace movements-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami argues that peace movements often lack the organization and commitment seen in militarized systems.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"> (55:59) Building global solidarity across struggles-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa and Sami discuss how movements for justice can strengthen one another across borders and identities.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"> (63:26) The first step toward awakening-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami explains why honest self-awareness and confronting inner fear are foundational to transformation.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"> (66:58) Sacred awakening into sacred activism-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The episode concludes with a call to pair spiritual awakening with courageous action in the world.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><br></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><b id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"></b></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><b id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><b> Guest bio:</b></b></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><b id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><br></b></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><b id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"> </b></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60" style="font-weight: bold;"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425" style="font-weight: bold;"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01" style="font-weight: bold;"><b style="font-weight: bold;"> Sami Awad</b><span style="font-weight: normal;"> is the Co-Director of Nonviolence International and a prominent voice for peace based in Bethlehem, Palestine. A lifelong advocate for nonviolent resistance, Sami has dedicated his life to envisioning a future where Palestinians and Israelis coexist in equality and respect for human rights.&nbsp; </span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"> In 1995, he founded the Holy Land Trust to promote Palestinian justice through nonviolent means. In his current role at Nonviolence International, Sami oversees educational programming with a specialized focus on leadership development and trauma resilience, while also directing the organization’s communications and development initiatives.&nbsp; </span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"> A graduate of American University’s School of International Service, Sami is a renowned author and speaker who continues to inspire audiences globally toward collective transformation. </span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"> In his new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=The+Sacred+Awakening+Sami+Awad&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com"> The Sacred Awakening: Reclaiming God Consciousness </a> , Sami draws from his experience as a Palestinian nonviolence practitioner, peacebuilder, and spiritual teacher to explore what he describes as a "revolution of consciousness" rooted in the teachings of Jesus. Rather than presenting Christianity as a religion to be followed, the book invites readers to embody what he calls "Christ Consciousness"—a way of living grounded in radical love, nonviolence, healing, and transformative action. Blending personal narrative, history, scripture, and contemporary reflection, The Sacred Awakening offers a compelling framework for connecting inner awakening with social&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">change and what Sami refers to as "sacred activism."&nbsp;</span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2da374af-7fff-1035-45b4-e1c09487bef4"><br></span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2da374af-7fff-1035-45b4-e1c09487bef4"> This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org"> www.euphrates.org. </a></span></span></span></span></span></p><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2da374af-7fff-1035-45b4-e1c09487bef4"><br></span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span><p></p><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span><br><br><br> </p></span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span><p></p></span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span><p></p></span><br><br><p></p><p dir="ltr"><br></p></span><br><br><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"> In this episode of Peace is Power, host Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Sami Awad, a Palestinian nonviolence practitioner, founder of Holy Land Trust, and co-director of Nonviolence International, about resistance, consciousness, and the spiritual foundations of peacebuilding.&nbsp; </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"> Sami describes the daily realities Palestinians face under occupation, including checkpoints, settler violence, and growing hopelessness. He reflects on the profound influence of his grandmother, who chose forgiveness and peacemaking after losing her husband and home during the Nakba. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"> Together, Janessa and Sami explore how systems of fear, domination, and separation shape human behavior and sustain violence across generations. The conversation ultimately becomes a call toward what Sami describes as “sacred awakening into sacred activism,” where awareness leads not to withdrawal, but to courageous engagement in the work of healing and transformation.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9d13ed44-7fff-7479-5714-733d64fed950"><b>Key Takeaways:</b></span></p><p></p><p><br></p><p><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Nonviolence as Empowerment </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"> Sami describes nonviolence not as passivity, but as a deeply empowering form of resistance that dissolves fear and restores human dignity. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Awareness Changes Everything </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"> The conversation explores how consciousness shapes systems of oppression, and how awareness interrupts automatic patterns of fear, separation, and domination. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Inner Work and Outer Action Are Connected </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"> True peacebuilding requires both personal transformation and active resistance to unjust systems and structures. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Fear Sustains Systems of Power </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"> From military occupation to modern consumer culture, systems of control depend on fear, conformity, and silence to survive. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Community Is Essential for Transformation </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"> Neither activism nor spiritual growth can happen in isolation. Healing, resistance, and courage are strengthened through collective support and shared purpose. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b>Timestamps:</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60" style="">(00:00) Awakening and the loss of fear-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami reflects on how awareness removes the ability to remain silent in the face of injustice.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (05:29) Returning to Bethlehem amid escalating violence-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami describes daily life under occupation, including checkpoints, settler attacks, and growing despair among Palestinians.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (10:09) His grandmother’s response to the Nakba-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">After losing her husband and becoming a refugee, Sami’s grandmother chose forgiveness, peacemaking, and nonviolent resistance.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (17:11) The olive tree moment that changed his life-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">At age 12, Sami experienced the power of nonviolent resistance while planting olive trees on threatened land.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (20:27) Losing fear through nonviolence-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami and Janessa discuss how nonviolent action can create an inner sense of calm, courage, and moral power.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (23:22) His uncle’s deportation for nonviolent activism-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami recalls watching his uncle deported by Israeli authorities and realizing how threatening nonviolence can be to systems of power.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (28:01) Consciousness, systems, and separation-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The conversation shifts toward how fear-based systems shape identity, conflict, and collective behavior.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"> (35:40) Jesus as a model of sacred resistance-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami examines how Jesus combined spiritual transformation with direct resistance to oppressive systems.</span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425">(41:30) Inner transformation and dismantling systems-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The discussion explores why personal healing and structural change must happen simultaneously.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"> (45:50) Where fertile ground for change exists today-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami reflects on why resistance movements in privileged societies may be essential to global transformation.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"> (50:19) The discipline missing from modern peace movements-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami argues that peace movements often lack the organization and commitment seen in militarized systems.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"> (55:59) Building global solidarity across struggles-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa and Sami discuss how movements for justice can strengthen one another across borders and identities.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"> (63:26) The first step toward awakening-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Sami explains why honest self-awareness and confronting inner fear are foundational to transformation.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"> (66:58) Sacred awakening into sacred activism-&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The episode concludes with a call to pair spiritual awakening with courageous action in the world.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><br></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><b id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"></b></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><b id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><b> Guest bio:</b></b></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><b id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><br></b></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><b id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><b id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><b id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"> </b></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60" style="font-weight: bold;"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425" style="font-weight: bold;"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01" style="font-weight: bold;"><b style="font-weight: bold;"> Sami Awad</b><span style="font-weight: normal;"> is the Co-Director of Nonviolence International and a prominent voice for peace based in Bethlehem, Palestine. A lifelong advocate for nonviolent resistance, Sami has dedicated his life to envisioning a future where Palestinians and Israelis coexist in equality and respect for human rights.&nbsp; </span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"> In 1995, he founded the Holy Land Trust to promote Palestinian justice through nonviolent means. In his current role at Nonviolence International, Sami oversees educational programming with a specialized focus on leadership development and trauma resilience, while also directing the organization’s communications and development initiatives.&nbsp; </span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"> A graduate of American University’s School of International Service, Sami is a renowned author and speaker who continues to inspire audiences globally toward collective transformation. </span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"> In his new book, <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=The+Sacred+Awakening+Sami+Awad&amp;utm_source=chatgpt.com"> The Sacred Awakening: Reclaiming God Consciousness </a> , Sami draws from his experience as a Palestinian nonviolence practitioner, peacebuilder, and spiritual teacher to explore what he describes as a "revolution of consciousness" rooted in the teachings of Jesus. Rather than presenting Christianity as a religion to be followed, the book invites readers to embody what he calls "Christ Consciousness"—a way of living grounded in radical love, nonviolence, healing, and transformative action. Blending personal narrative, history, scripture, and contemporary reflection, The Sacred Awakening offers a compelling framework for connecting inner awakening with social&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">change and what Sami refers to as "sacred activism."&nbsp;</span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2da374af-7fff-1035-45b4-e1c09487bef4"><br></span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2da374af-7fff-1035-45b4-e1c09487bef4"> This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org"> www.euphrates.org. </a></span></span></span></span></span></p><span id="docs-internal-guid-31b9ee57-7fff-08b1-4c69-2bf6e7bed8e6"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6129bd32-7fff-d389-a171-b4173ff5ba60"><span id="docs-internal-guid-98c5fe6f-7fff-34e6-e711-3a5a87e80425"><span id="docs-internal-guid-0e37f870-7fff-e9cb-b88f-d92ea8d51f01"><span id="docs-internal-guid-2da374af-7fff-1035-45b4-e1c09487bef4"><br></span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span><p></p><p dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span><br><br><br> </p></span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span><p></p></span><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span><p></p></span><br><br><p></p><p dir="ltr"><br></p></span><br><br><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Peace is Power, host Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Sami Awad, a Palestinian nonviolence practitioner, founder of Holy Land Trust, and co-director of Nonviolence International, about resistance, consciousness, and the spiritual...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Peace is Power, host Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Sami Awad, a Palestinian nonviolence practitioner, founder of Holy Land Trust, and co-director of Nonviolence International, about resistance, consciousness, and the spiritual foundations of peacebuilding.&nbsp; 
 Sami describes the daily realities Palestinians face under occupation, including checkpoints, settler violence, and growing hopelessness. He reflects on the profound influence of his grandmother, who chose forgiveness and peacemaking after losing her husband and home during the Nakba. 
 Together, Janessa and Sami explore how systems of fear, domination, and separation shape human behavior and sustain violence across generations. The conversation ultimately becomes a call toward what Sami describes as “sacred awakening into sacred activism,” where awareness leads not to withdrawal, but to courageous engagement in the work of healing and transformation.

Key Takeaways:

Nonviolence as Empowerment 
 Sami describes nonviolence not as passivity, but as a deeply empowering form of resistance that dissolves fear and restores human dignity. 

Awareness Changes Everything 
 The conversation explores how consciousness shapes systems of oppression, and how awareness interrupts automatic patterns of fear, separation, and domination. 

Inner Work and Outer Action Are Connected 
 True peacebuilding requires both personal transformation and active resistance to unjust systems and structures. 

Fear Sustains Systems of Power 
 From military occupation to modern consumer culture, systems of control depend on fear, conformity, and silence to survive. 

Community Is Essential for Transformation 
 Neither activism nor spiritual growth can happen in isolation. Healing, resistance, and courage are strengthened through collective support and shared purpose. 

Timestamps:

 

(00:00) Awakening and the loss of fear-&nbsp;Sami reflects on how awareness removes the ability to remain silent in the face of injustice.
 (05:29) Returning to Bethlehem amid escalating violence-&nbsp;Sami describes daily life under occupation, including checkpoints, settler attacks, and growing despair among Palestinians.
 (10:09) His grandmother’s response to the Nakba-&nbsp;After losing her husband and becoming a refugee, Sami’s grandmother chose forgiveness, peacemaking, and nonviolent resistance.
 (17:11) The olive tree moment that changed his life-&nbsp;At age 12, Sami experienced the power of nonviolent resistance while planting olive trees on threatened land.
 (20:27) Losing fear through nonviolence-&nbsp;Sami and Janessa discuss how nonviolent action can create an inner sense of calm, courage, and moral power.
 (23:22) His uncle’s deportation for nonviolent activism-&nbsp;Sami recalls watching his uncle deported by Israeli authorities and realizing how threatening nonviolence can be to systems of power.
 (28:01) Consciousness, systems, and separation-&nbsp;The conversation shifts toward how fear-based systems shape identity, conflict, and collective behavior.
 (35:40) Jesus as a model of sacred resistance-&nbsp;Sami examines how Jesus combined spiritual transformation with direct resistance to oppressive systems.

(41:30) Inner transformation and dismantling systems-&nbsp;The discussion explores why personal healing and structural change must happen simultaneously.
 (45:50) Where fertile ground for change exists today-&nbsp;Sami reflects on why resistance movements in privileged societies may be essential to global transformation.
 (50:19) The discipline missing from modern peace movements-&nbsp;Sami argues that peace movements often lack the organization and commitment seen in militarized systems.
 (55:59) Building global solidarity across struggles-&nbsp;Janessa and Sami discuss how movements for justice can strengthen one another across borders and identities.
 (63:26) The first step toward awakening-&nbsp;Sami explains why honest self-awareness...]]></itunes:summary>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p></p><p><b id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Today, on Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder sits down with John D. Negroponte, a veteran diplomat whose career spans more than four decades in the U.S. Foreign Service. Drawing on his experience as U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and to the United Nations, Negroponte shares his perspective on how global power, conflict, and diplomacy have evolved over time.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"> Their conversation looks at the contrast between traditional ideas of power—often tied to military strength—and the more subtle, lasting influence of relationships, institutions, and civil society. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"> Together, they explore the role of international organizations, the limits of military intervention, and how citizen engagement can help shape a more peaceful world. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"> This episode encourages you to rethink what power really means and how peace can serve as a guiding force in both public policy and everyday life. </span></p><b id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Key Takeaways:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Power Extends Beyond Military Force </b></p><p dir="ltr"> While traditional power often relies on weapons and strategy, lasting influence frequently comes from relationships, diplomacy, and shared understanding.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"> </p><p dir="ltr"><b>History Offers Perspective on Uncertainty </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Periods of global instability are not new. Looking at past challenges can provide context and cautious optimism for navigating current events. </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Diplomacy Remains Essential</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Despite its limitations, diplomacy continues to play a critical role in conflict resolution and maintaining international stability. </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Civil Society Has a Meaningful Role </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Change is not driven solely by governments. Individuals and communities contribute significantly to shaping peaceful outcomes.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"> </p><p dir="ltr"><b>Crisis Can Create Opportunity for Growth </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Moments of upheaval may open the door for deeper transformation, both globally and individually. </p><p dir="ltr"> </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Timestamps:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"> (00:13) Introduction to the concept of peace as power. </p><p dir="ltr"> (02:00) Ambassador Negroponte’s background and career overview. </p><p dir="ltr"> (06:30) Defining power in the context of war and diplomacy. </p><p dir="ltr"> (12:45) Are current global challenges unprecedented? </p><p dir="ltr"> (20:10) The role and effectiveness of the United Nations. </p><p dir="ltr"> (28:40) Limits of military intervention in modern conflicts. </p><p dir="ltr"> (36:15) Civil society and citizens' responsibility. </p><p dir="ltr"> (44:50) Lessons from Iraq and diplomatic leadership. </p><p dir="ltr"> (52:30) Hope, uncertainty, and the future of global stability. </p><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Guest Bio:&nbsp;</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> John D. Negroponte</b> has spent his life inside the rooms where power is debated, negotiated, and exercised.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"> One of America’s most distinguished diplomats, he served as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Iraq, Mexico, Honduras, and the Philippines; as the first U.S. Director of National Intelligence; and as Deputy Secretary of State.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"> In this conversation, he brings decades of experience at the highest levels of diplomacy and national security to questions at the heart of Peace Is Power.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr">This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org/">www.euphrates.org.</a><br></p><p dir="ltr"><br></p></b><p></p><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><b id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Today, on Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder sits down with John D. Negroponte, a veteran diplomat whose career spans more than four decades in the U.S. Foreign Service. Drawing on his experience as U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and to the United Nations, Negroponte shares his perspective on how global power, conflict, and diplomacy have evolved over time.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"> Their conversation looks at the contrast between traditional ideas of power—often tied to military strength—and the more subtle, lasting influence of relationships, institutions, and civil society. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"> Together, they explore the role of international organizations, the limits of military intervention, and how citizen engagement can help shape a more peaceful world. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"> This episode encourages you to rethink what power really means and how peace can serve as a guiding force in both public policy and everyday life. </span></p><b id="docs-internal-guid-6c167c0f-7fff-a28f-93c5-4ca136043b87"><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Key Takeaways:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Power Extends Beyond Military Force </b></p><p dir="ltr"> While traditional power often relies on weapons and strategy, lasting influence frequently comes from relationships, diplomacy, and shared understanding.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"> </p><p dir="ltr"><b>History Offers Perspective on Uncertainty </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Periods of global instability are not new. Looking at past challenges can provide context and cautious optimism for navigating current events. </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Diplomacy Remains Essential</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Despite its limitations, diplomacy continues to play a critical role in conflict resolution and maintaining international stability. </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Civil Society Has a Meaningful Role </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Change is not driven solely by governments. Individuals and communities contribute significantly to shaping peaceful outcomes.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"> </p><p dir="ltr"><b>Crisis Can Create Opportunity for Growth </b></p><p dir="ltr"> Moments of upheaval may open the door for deeper transformation, both globally and individually. </p><p dir="ltr"> </p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr"><b>Timestamps:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"> (00:13) Introduction to the concept of peace as power. </p><p dir="ltr"> (02:00) Ambassador Negroponte’s background and career overview. </p><p dir="ltr"> (06:30) Defining power in the context of war and diplomacy. </p><p dir="ltr"> (12:45) Are current global challenges unprecedented? </p><p dir="ltr"> (20:10) The role and effectiveness of the United Nations. </p><p dir="ltr"> (28:40) Limits of military intervention in modern conflicts. </p><p dir="ltr"> (36:15) Civil society and citizens' responsibility. </p><p dir="ltr"> (44:50) Lessons from Iraq and diplomatic leadership. </p><p dir="ltr"> (52:30) Hope, uncertainty, and the future of global stability. </p><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Guest Bio:&nbsp;</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> John D. Negroponte</b> has spent his life inside the rooms where power is debated, negotiated, and exercised.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"> One of America’s most distinguished diplomats, he served as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Iraq, Mexico, Honduras, and the Philippines; as the first U.S. Director of National Intelligence; and as Deputy Secretary of State.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"> In this conversation, he brings decades of experience at the highest levels of diplomacy and national security to questions at the heart of Peace Is Power.</p><p dir="ltr"><br></p><p dir="ltr">This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org/">www.euphrates.org.</a><br></p><p dir="ltr"><br></p></b><p></p><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <itunes:subtitle>Today, on Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder sits down with John D. Negroponte, a veteran diplomat whose career spans more than four decades in the U.S. Foreign Service. Drawing on his experience as U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and to the United Nations,...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today, on Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder sits down with John D. Negroponte, a veteran diplomat whose career spans more than four decades in the U.S. Foreign Service. Drawing on his experience as U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and to the United Nations, Negroponte shares his perspective on how global power, conflict, and diplomacy have evolved over time.
 Their conversation looks at the contrast between traditional ideas of power—often tied to military strength—and the more subtle, lasting influence of relationships, institutions, and civil society. 
 Together, they explore the role of international organizations, the limits of military intervention, and how citizen engagement can help shape a more peaceful world. 
 This episode encourages you to rethink what power really means and how peace can serve as a guiding force in both public policy and everyday life. 

 Key Takeaways:

 
Power Extends Beyond Military Force 
 While traditional power often relies on weapons and strategy, lasting influence frequently comes from relationships, diplomacy, and shared understanding.

 
History Offers Perspective on Uncertainty 
 Periods of global instability are not new. Looking at past challenges can provide context and cautious optimism for navigating current events. 

Diplomacy Remains Essential

 
 Despite its limitations, diplomacy continues to play a critical role in conflict resolution and maintaining international stability. 

Civil Society Has a Meaningful Role 
 Change is not driven solely by governments. Individuals and communities contribute significantly to shaping peaceful outcomes.

 
Crisis Can Create Opportunity for Growth 
 Moments of upheaval may open the door for deeper transformation, both globally and individually. 
 

Timestamps:

 
 (00:13) Introduction to the concept of peace as power. 
 (02:00) Ambassador Negroponte’s background and career overview. 
 (06:30) Defining power in the context of war and diplomacy. 
 (12:45) Are current global challenges unprecedented? 
 (20:10) The role and effectiveness of the United Nations. 
 (28:40) Limits of military intervention in modern conflicts. 
 (36:15) Civil society and citizens' responsibility. 
 (44:50) Lessons from Iraq and diplomatic leadership. 
 (52:30) Hope, uncertainty, and the future of global stability. 

 Guest Bio:&nbsp;

 John D. Negroponte has spent his life inside the rooms where power is debated, negotiated, and exercised.&nbsp; 
 One of America’s most distinguished diplomats, he served as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Iraq, Mexico, Honduras, and the Philippines; as the first U.S. Director of National Intelligence; and as Deputy Secretary of State.&nbsp; 
 In this conversation, he brings decades of experience at the highest levels of diplomacy and national security to questions at the heart of Peace Is Power.

This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at www.euphrates.org.]]></itunes:summary>
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      <title>What Bomb Can Touch the Human Spirit? Discussing War, Peace, and Nonviolence with Ari Honarvar</title>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2026 07:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"> In this episode of Peace is Power , Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Ari Honarvar, an Ir</span>anian-American writer, artist, and founder of Rumi With a View. Ari reflects on growing up in Iran during the Islamic Revolution and the Iran-Iraq War, where women’s freedoms were stripped away, and fear became part of daily life.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"> After witnessing repression and violence firsthand, her parents made the heartbreaking decision to send her alone to the United States at age 14 for her safety. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"> The conversation explores exile, identity, trauma, and the emotional dislocation of leaving one’s homeland and family behind. Ari shares how poetry, music, art, and community became sources of sanctuary and resistance during war. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"> Together, Janessa and Ari discuss rehumanization, nonviolence, feminine leadership, and the challenge of keeping the heart open in times of destruction and division. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b>Key Takeaways:</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Rehumanization Is an Act of Resistance </b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""> Ari explains how her work uses storytelling, art, and joy to reconnect people to the humanity behind war, displacement, and political violence. </span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Exile Leaves Both Emotional and Physical Wounds </b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""> Being separated from family, language, and culture created a profound sense of dislocation that shaped Ari’s understanding of trauma and resilience. </span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Beauty Can Sustain Us During Crisis </b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""> Ari describes how people found moments of sanctuary and dignity even during war and oppression.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"> </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Peace Requires Justice </b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""> The conversation challenges simplistic ideas of peace, emphasizing that peace without dignity, accountability, and collective liberation is incomplete. </span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Keeping the Heart Open Takes Strength </b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""> Ari speaks about developing the capacity to hold grief, anger, and compassion without losing one’s humanity. </span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Timestamps:</b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b><br></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390" style=""> (00:12) Peace as connection, not domination.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa introduces the podcast's central theme and explores the idea that true power comes from connection rather than force.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (01:32) Growing up during revolution and war.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari reflects on her childhood in Iran during the Islamic Revolution and the Iran-Iraq War.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (06:06) Leaving Iran alone at age 14.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari shares the heartbreaking circumstances that led her parents to send her to the United States for safety.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (10:27) Rebelling against oppression.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">From dressing as a boy to writing anti-regime graffiti, Ari describes her early acts of resistance against gender restrictions.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (13:15) The trauma of exile and dislocation.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The conversation explores the emotional toll of being separated from family, language, and homeland.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (17:16) Witnessing suffering from afar.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari discusses the grief and helplessness of watching violence unfold in Iran while living abroad.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (24:37) Rehumanizing the victims of war.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari explains her project highlighting the people, schools, and communities affected by bombings and political violence.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (31:07) Keeping the heart open during difficult times.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa and Ari reflect on the strength required to remain compassionate in the face of pain and destruction.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (36:29) What Iranian women are teaching the world.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari discusses collective liberation, feminine leadership, and the broader meaning behind women-led resistance movements.</span><br><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"> (37:05) Rooftops, missiles, and Rumi.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari shares a childhood memory of neighbors reciting poetry during air raids, finding sanctuary in beauty and art.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"> (43:40) Violence, self-defense, and nonviolence.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A nuanced conversation about whether violence can ever be justified in situations of oppression and survival.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"> (51:38) Joy and embodiment as resilience practices.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari describes how breath, art, gratitude, and community help sustain people through trauma and overwhelm.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"> (52:24) The mirror poem and self-reflection.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari shares a poem by Nizami Ganjavi about confronting ourselves instead of projecting blame outward.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"> (55:05) Why peace without justice is incomplete.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The episode closes with a reflection on the relationship between peace, justice, and collective wholeness.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b style="font-weight: bold;"><br></b><span id="docs-internal-guid-17c5c100-7fff-cab2-498a-e3d6d6b6f4d4" style=""><p dir="ltr" style="font-weight: bold;"><b>Guest bio: </b></p><p dir="ltr" style="font-weight: bold;"> </p><p dir="ltr" style="font-weight: bold;"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style=""><b>Ari Honarvar</b> is an award-winning writer, artist, and speaker whose work bridges the intersections of art, social justice, and collective well-being. As a presenter for the Solutions Journalism Network, her writing has been featured in The Guardian , The New York Times , Newsweek , Teen Vogue , and Yes! Magazine , among other publications. </p><p dir="ltr" style=""><a href="https://rumiwithaview.com/novel-a-girl-called-rumi/"> A Girl Called Rumi </a> , Ari’s award-winning debut novel, has garnered widespread acclaim as a BookFest and Nautilus Award winner, a Locus and Foreword INDIES finalist, and one of Kirkus Reviews ’ Best Books of 2022. </p><p dir="ltr" style=""> Her literary contributions extend to several anthologies and celebrated flash fiction. Additionally, she created the <a href="https://rumiwithaview.com/rumis-gift/"> Rumi’s Gift </a> Oracle Deck, which pairs her original translations and meditations with the evocative artistry of Carmen Costello. </p><p dir="ltr" style=""> In her capacity as the Iranian Musical Ambassador of Peace, Ari continues her mission to bridge divides across conflict-ridden borders through the power of poetry and music. She frequently dances with refugees and leads Resilience through Joy workshops for displaced individuals and healthcare professionals across Europe and the U.S.-Mexico border. Following the success of these initiatives, she now provides customized versions of these programs to educational institutions, nonprofits, and organizations committed to the work of social justice.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr" style=""> In her commitment to fostering connection through art, Ari established the <a href="https://rumiwithaview.com/drop-poems-not-bombs/"> Drop Poems Not Bombs </a> initiative, which facilitates the exchange of musical love letters from American artists to the Iranian people. Additionally, she spearheads <a href="https://rumiwithaview.com/dance-for-freedom/"> Dance for Freedom</a>,&nbsp;a project dedicated to mobilizing international solidarity and support for protesters in Iran.</p><p dir="ltr" style=""><br></p><p dir="ltr" style=""><b>Follow Ari: </b></p><p dir="ltr" style="">Website- <a href="https://rumiwithaview.com/" target="_blank">https://rumiwithaview.com/</a> </p><p dir="ltr" style="">Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rumiwithaview/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/rumiwithaview/</a><br></p><p dir="ltr" style=""><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style=""><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at </span><a href="http://www.euphrates.org" style="font-size: 1rem; font-family: sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> www.euphrates.org.</a></p> <p style="font-weight: bold;"></p></span><p style=""></p></span><br><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"> In this episode of Peace is Power , Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Ari Honarvar, an Ir</span>anian-American writer, artist, and founder of Rumi With a View. Ari reflects on growing up in Iran during the Islamic Revolution and the Iran-Iraq War, where women’s freedoms were stripped away, and fear became part of daily life.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"> After witnessing repression and violence firsthand, her parents made the heartbreaking decision to send her alone to the United States at age 14 for her safety. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"> The conversation explores exile, identity, trauma, and the emotional dislocation of leaving one’s homeland and family behind. Ari shares how poetry, music, art, and community became sources of sanctuary and resistance during war. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"> Together, Janessa and Ari discuss rehumanization, nonviolence, feminine leadership, and the challenge of keeping the heart open in times of destruction and division. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b>Key Takeaways:</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Rehumanization Is an Act of Resistance </b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""> Ari explains how her work uses storytelling, art, and joy to reconnect people to the humanity behind war, displacement, and political violence. </span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Exile Leaves Both Emotional and Physical Wounds </b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""> Being separated from family, language, and culture created a profound sense of dislocation that shaped Ari’s understanding of trauma and resilience. </span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Beauty Can Sustain Us During Crisis </b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""> Ari describes how people found moments of sanctuary and dignity even during war and oppression.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"> </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Peace Requires Justice </b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""> The conversation challenges simplistic ideas of peace, emphasizing that peace without dignity, accountability, and collective liberation is incomplete. </span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Keeping the Heart Open Takes Strength </b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""> Ari speaks about developing the capacity to hold grief, anger, and compassion without losing one’s humanity. </span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b>Timestamps:</b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b><br></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><b id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"></b></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68" style=""><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390" style=""> (00:12) Peace as connection, not domination.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa introduces the podcast's central theme and explores the idea that true power comes from connection rather than force.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (01:32) Growing up during revolution and war.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari reflects on her childhood in Iran during the Islamic Revolution and the Iran-Iraq War.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (06:06) Leaving Iran alone at age 14.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari shares the heartbreaking circumstances that led her parents to send her to the United States for safety.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (10:27) Rebelling against oppression.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">From dressing as a boy to writing anti-regime graffiti, Ari describes her early acts of resistance against gender restrictions.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (13:15) The trauma of exile and dislocation.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The conversation explores the emotional toll of being separated from family, language, and homeland.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (17:16) Witnessing suffering from afar.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari discusses the grief and helplessness of watching violence unfold in Iran while living abroad.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (24:37) Rehumanizing the victims of war.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari explains her project highlighting the people, schools, and communities affected by bombings and political violence.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (31:07) Keeping the heart open during difficult times.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Janessa and Ari reflect on the strength required to remain compassionate in the face of pain and destruction.</span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"> (36:29) What Iranian women are teaching the world.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari discusses collective liberation, feminine leadership, and the broader meaning behind women-led resistance movements.</span><br><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"> (37:05) Rooftops, missiles, and Rumi.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari shares a childhood memory of neighbors reciting poetry during air raids, finding sanctuary in beauty and art.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"> (43:40) Violence, self-defense, and nonviolence.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A nuanced conversation about whether violence can ever be justified in situations of oppression and survival.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"> (51:38) Joy and embodiment as resilience practices.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari describes how breath, art, gratitude, and community help sustain people through trauma and overwhelm.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"> (52:24) The mirror poem and self-reflection.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Ari shares a poem by Nizami Ganjavi about confronting ourselves instead of projecting blame outward.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><span id="docs-internal-guid-794621ed-7fff-1b7e-8e22-43225a176f68"><span id="docs-internal-guid-9f06f907-7fff-5899-2f60-f6f2df884390"><span id="docs-internal-guid-22f386f9-7fff-25a4-f568-0907a897b80d"> (55:05) Why peace without justice is incomplete.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">The episode closes with a reflection on the relationship between peace, justice, and collective wholeness.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><span id="docs-internal-guid-619ca839-7fff-684d-879e-dc53a755fc62"><b style="font-weight: bold;"><br></b><span id="docs-internal-guid-17c5c100-7fff-cab2-498a-e3d6d6b6f4d4" style=""><p dir="ltr" style="font-weight: bold;"><b>Guest bio: </b></p><p dir="ltr" style="font-weight: bold;"> </p><p dir="ltr" style="font-weight: bold;"><br></p><p dir="ltr" style=""><b>Ari Honarvar</b> is an award-winning writer, artist, and speaker whose work bridges the intersections of art, social justice, and collective well-being. As a presenter for the Solutions Journalism Network, her writing has been featured in The Guardian , The New York Times , Newsweek , Teen Vogue , and Yes! Magazine , among other publications. </p><p dir="ltr" style=""><a href="https://rumiwithaview.com/novel-a-girl-called-rumi/"> A Girl Called Rumi </a> , Ari’s award-winning debut novel, has garnered widespread acclaim as a BookFest and Nautilus Award winner, a Locus and Foreword INDIES finalist, and one of Kirkus Reviews ’ Best Books of 2022. </p><p dir="ltr" style=""> Her literary contributions extend to several anthologies and celebrated flash fiction. Additionally, she created the <a href="https://rumiwithaview.com/rumis-gift/"> Rumi’s Gift </a> Oracle Deck, which pairs her original translations and meditations with the evocative artistry of Carmen Costello. </p><p dir="ltr" style=""> In her capacity as the Iranian Musical Ambassador of Peace, Ari continues her mission to bridge divides across conflict-ridden borders through the power of poetry and music. She frequently dances with refugees and leads Resilience through Joy workshops for displaced individuals and healthcare professionals across Europe and the U.S.-Mexico border. Following the success of these initiatives, she now provides customized versions of these programs to educational institutions, nonprofits, and organizations committed to the work of social justice.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr" style=""> In her commitment to fostering connection through art, Ari established the <a href="https://rumiwithaview.com/drop-poems-not-bombs/"> Drop Poems Not Bombs </a> initiative, which facilitates the exchange of musical love letters from American artists to the Iranian people. Additionally, she spearheads <a href="https://rumiwithaview.com/dance-for-freedom/"> Dance for Freedom</a>,&nbsp;a project dedicated to mobilizing international solidarity and support for protesters in Iran.</p><p dir="ltr" style=""><br></p><p dir="ltr" style=""><b>Follow Ari: </b></p><p dir="ltr" style="">Website- <a href="https://rumiwithaview.com/" target="_blank">https://rumiwithaview.com/</a> </p><p dir="ltr" style="">Instagram- <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rumiwithaview/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/rumiwithaview/</a><br></p><p dir="ltr" style=""><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;"><br></span></p><p dir="ltr" style=""><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at </span><a href="http://www.euphrates.org" style="font-size: 1rem; font-family: sans-serif; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"> www.euphrates.org.</a></p> <p style="font-weight: bold;"></p></span><p style=""></p></span><br><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Peace is Power , Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Ari Honarvar, an Iranian-American writer, artist, and founder of Rumi With a View. Ari reflects on growing up in Iran during the Islamic Revolution and the Iran-Iraq War, where women’s...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Peace is Power , Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Ari Honarvar, an Iranian-American writer, artist, and founder of Rumi With a View. Ari reflects on growing up in Iran during the Islamic Revolution and the Iran-Iraq War, where women’s freedoms were stripped away, and fear became part of daily life.&nbsp; 
 After witnessing repression and violence firsthand, her parents made the heartbreaking decision to send her alone to the United States at age 14 for her safety. 
 The conversation explores exile, identity, trauma, and the emotional dislocation of leaving one’s homeland and family behind. Ari shares how poetry, music, art, and community became sources of sanctuary and resistance during war. 
 Together, Janessa and Ari discuss rehumanization, nonviolence, feminine leadership, and the challenge of keeping the heart open in times of destruction and division. 

Key Takeaways:

Rehumanization Is an Act of Resistance 
 Ari explains how her work uses storytelling, art, and joy to reconnect people to the humanity behind war, displacement, and political violence. 

Exile Leaves Both Emotional and Physical Wounds 
 Being separated from family, language, and culture created a profound sense of dislocation that shaped Ari’s understanding of trauma and resilience. 

Beauty Can Sustain Us During Crisis 
 Ari describes how people found moments of sanctuary and dignity even during war and oppression.

 
Peace Requires Justice 
 The conversation challenges simplistic ideas of peace, emphasizing that peace without dignity, accountability, and collective liberation is incomplete. 

Keeping the Heart Open Takes Strength 
 Ari speaks about developing the capacity to hold grief, anger, and compassion without losing one’s humanity. 

Timestamps:

 (00:12) Peace as connection, not domination.&nbsp;Janessa introduces the podcast's central theme and explores the idea that true power comes from connection rather than force.
 (01:32) Growing up during revolution and war.&nbsp;Ari reflects on her childhood in Iran during the Islamic Revolution and the Iran-Iraq War.
 (06:06) Leaving Iran alone at age 14.&nbsp;Ari shares the heartbreaking circumstances that led her parents to send her to the United States for safety.
 (10:27) Rebelling against oppression.&nbsp;From dressing as a boy to writing anti-regime graffiti, Ari describes her early acts of resistance against gender restrictions.
 (13:15) The trauma of exile and dislocation.&nbsp;The conversation explores the emotional toll of being separated from family, language, and homeland.
 (17:16) Witnessing suffering from afar.&nbsp;Ari discusses the grief and helplessness of watching violence unfold in Iran while living abroad.
 (24:37) Rehumanizing the victims of war.&nbsp;Ari explains her project highlighting the people, schools, and communities affected by bombings and political violence.
 (31:07) Keeping the heart open during difficult times.&nbsp;Janessa and Ari reflect on the strength required to remain compassionate in the face of pain and destruction.
 (36:29) What Iranian women are teaching the world.&nbsp;Ari discusses collective liberation, feminine leadership, and the broader meaning behind women-led resistance movements.

 (37:05) Rooftops, missiles, and Rumi.&nbsp;Ari shares a childhood memory of neighbors reciting poetry during air raids, finding sanctuary in beauty and art.
 (43:40) Violence, self-defense, and nonviolence.&nbsp;A nuanced conversation about whether violence can ever be justified in situations of oppression and survival.
 (51:38) Joy and embodiment as resilience practices.&nbsp;Ari describes how breath, art, gratitude, and community help sustain people through trauma and overwhelm.
 (52:24) The mirror poem and self-reflection.&nbsp;Ari shares a poem by Nizami Ganjavi about confronting ourselves instead of projecting blame outward.
 (55:05) Why peace without justice is incomplete.&nbsp;The episode closes with a reflection...]]></itunes:summary>
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      <title>Peace is Possible: Lessons From an 8,000 Mile Journey with Satish Kumar</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Satish Kumar, a lifelong peace activist, former Jain monk, and environmental thinker. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> Satish shares powerful personal stories from his 8,000-mile peace pilgrimage, including his decision to travel without money as an act of radical trust. Drawing on the teachings of Mahatma Gandhi and Vinoba Bhave, he reflects on the idea that true power lies not in force or weapons, but in love, nonviolence, and human connection. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> The conversation moves fluidly between global issues and personal responsibility, touching on political division, conflict, and environmental challenges. Satish highlights that while peace begins within, it must be carried outward through action, communication, and collective effort.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Key Takeaways:</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Peace Is a Form of Power, Not Weakness </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> Nonviolence and love can mobilize entire populations and create lasting change, as seen in movements led by Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Trust Creates Connection </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> Satish’s journey without money demonstrated that trust often generates kindness in return. Human beings are more connected than divided.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Inner and Outer Peace Must Work Together </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> Personal transformation and societal change are interdependent. You cannot build a peaceful world without cultivating peace within.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Building a Peace Movement Requires Action </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> Satish outlines four steps: be the change, communicate effectively, organize collectively, and remain patient with results.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Peace Includes Our Relationship with Nature </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> True peace extends beyond human relationships. A sustainable future depends on recognizing that humans and nature are not separate.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Timestamps:</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (00:00) Trust as the foundation of peace.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Satish introduces the idea that peace comes from trust and shared humanity.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (02:00) Gandhi and the power of nonviolence.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Historical examples of peaceful resistance that have shaped nations.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (06:30) Addressing modern political division.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">How opposing sides can move toward peace in polarized societies.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (11:00) Walking the world without money.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A radical experiment in trust and human kindness.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (16:40) How to begin practicing trust and courage.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Building inner strength through daily habits.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (23:40) Building and organizing peace movements.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Practical steps for creating large-scale change.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (33:00) The “peace tea” story.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A small act of kindness with a global ripple effect.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (35:00) Peace and environmental responsibility.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Why peace must include harmony with nature.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (41:00) Inner vs outer transformation.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Why are they necessary and inseparable?</span></span></p><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Guest Bio:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> Satish Kumar</b> is an acclaimed activist, author, and speaker known for his lifelong commitment to peace, nuclear disarmament, and ecological sustainability. He is widely recognized for his extraordinary 8,000-mile peace walk across the world and for his long-standing role as editor emeritus of Resurgence &amp; Ecologist magazine. </p><p dir="ltr"> Over the years, Satish has been a Jain monk, pacifist, and advocate for nuclear disarmament. He is also the founder and Director of Programmes at Schumacher College, the internationally respected center for ecological studies. </p><p dir="ltr"> One of his most remarkable achievements was completing, alongside his companion E. P. Menon, an 8,000-mile peace pilgrimage that began in New Delhi in 1962 and continued over two and a half years through Moscow, Paris, London, and Washington, D.C.—the capitals of the world’s earliest nuclear powers.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"> Throughout his work, Satish has consistently championed the belief that reverence for nature should be at the center of every political and social conversation. </p></b><br><b id="docs-internal-guid-6baac683-7fff-7b09-10d3-002f7aaebf5d"><p dir="ltr"> This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org"> www.euphrates.org. </a></p></b><br><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Satish Kumar, a lifelong peace activist, former Jain monk, and environmental thinker. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> Satish shares powerful personal stories from his 8,000-mile peace pilgrimage, including his decision to travel without money as an act of radical trust. Drawing on the teachings of Mahatma Gandhi and Vinoba Bhave, he reflects on the idea that true power lies not in force or weapons, but in love, nonviolence, and human connection. </span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> The conversation moves fluidly between global issues and personal responsibility, touching on political division, conflict, and environmental challenges. Satish highlights that while peace begins within, it must be carried outward through action, communication, and collective effort.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Key Takeaways:</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Peace Is a Form of Power, Not Weakness </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> Nonviolence and love can mobilize entire populations and create lasting change, as seen in movements led by Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Trust Creates Connection </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> Satish’s journey without money demonstrated that trust often generates kindness in return. Human beings are more connected than divided.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Inner and Outer Peace Must Work Together </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> Personal transformation and societal change are interdependent. You cannot build a peaceful world without cultivating peace within.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Building a Peace Movement Requires Action </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> Satish outlines four steps: be the change, communicate effectively, organize collectively, and remain patient with results.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Peace Includes Our Relationship with Nature </b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> True peace extends beyond human relationships. A sustainable future depends on recognizing that humans and nature are not separate.</span></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b>Timestamps:</b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><b><br></b></b></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (00:00) Trust as the foundation of peace.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Satish introduces the idea that peace comes from trust and shared humanity.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (02:00) Gandhi and the power of nonviolence.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Historical examples of peaceful resistance that have shaped nations.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (06:30) Addressing modern political division.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">How opposing sides can move toward peace in polarized societies.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (11:00) Walking the world without money.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A radical experiment in trust and human kindness.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (16:40) How to begin practicing trust and courage.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Building inner strength through daily habits.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (23:40) Building and organizing peace movements.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Practical steps for creating large-scale change.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (33:00) The “peace tea” story.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">A small act of kindness with a global ripple effect.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (35:00) Peace and environmental responsibility.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Why peace must include harmony with nature.</span></span></p><p dir="ltr"><span id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"> (41:00) Inner vs outer transformation.&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Why are they necessary and inseparable?</span></span></p><b id="docs-internal-guid-d228756b-7fff-dcac-a7d4-1de6c176b898"><br><p dir="ltr"><b> Guest Bio:</b></p><p dir="ltr"><b><br></b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> </b></p><p dir="ltr"><b> Satish Kumar</b> is an acclaimed activist, author, and speaker known for his lifelong commitment to peace, nuclear disarmament, and ecological sustainability. He is widely recognized for his extraordinary 8,000-mile peace walk across the world and for his long-standing role as editor emeritus of Resurgence &amp; Ecologist magazine. </p><p dir="ltr"> Over the years, Satish has been a Jain monk, pacifist, and advocate for nuclear disarmament. He is also the founder and Director of Programmes at Schumacher College, the internationally respected center for ecological studies. </p><p dir="ltr"> One of his most remarkable achievements was completing, alongside his companion E. P. Menon, an 8,000-mile peace pilgrimage that began in New Delhi in 1962 and continued over two and a half years through Moscow, Paris, London, and Washington, D.C.—the capitals of the world’s earliest nuclear powers.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr"> Throughout his work, Satish has consistently championed the belief that reverence for nature should be at the center of every political and social conversation. </p></b><br><b id="docs-internal-guid-6baac683-7fff-7b09-10d3-002f7aaebf5d"><p dir="ltr"> This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at <a href="http://www.euphrates.org"> www.euphrates.org. </a></p></b><br><br><p></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Satish Kumar, a lifelong peace activist, former Jain monk, and environmental thinker.  Satish shares powerful personal stories from his 8,000-mile peace pilgrimage, including his decision...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Peace is Power, Janessa Gans Wilder speaks with Satish Kumar, a lifelong peace activist, former Jain monk, and environmental thinker. 
 Satish shares powerful personal stories from his 8,000-mile peace pilgrimage, including his decision to travel without money as an act of radical trust. Drawing on the teachings of Mahatma Gandhi and Vinoba Bhave, he reflects on the idea that true power lies not in force or weapons, but in love, nonviolence, and human connection. 
 The conversation moves fluidly between global issues and personal responsibility, touching on political division, conflict, and environmental challenges. Satish highlights that while peace begins within, it must be carried outward through action, communication, and collective effort.

Key Takeaways:

Peace Is a Form of Power, Not Weakness 
 Nonviolence and love can mobilize entire populations and create lasting change, as seen in movements led by Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr.

 
Trust Creates Connection 
 Satish’s journey without money demonstrated that trust often generates kindness in return. Human beings are more connected than divided.

 
Inner and Outer Peace Must Work Together 
 Personal transformation and societal change are interdependent. You cannot build a peaceful world without cultivating peace within.

 
Building a Peace Movement Requires Action 
 Satish outlines four steps: be the change, communicate effectively, organize collectively, and remain patient with results.

 
Peace Includes Our Relationship with Nature 
 True peace extends beyond human relationships. A sustainable future depends on recognizing that humans and nature are not separate.

Timestamps:

 (00:00) Trust as the foundation of peace.&nbsp;Satish introduces the idea that peace comes from trust and shared humanity.
 (02:00) Gandhi and the power of nonviolence.&nbsp;Historical examples of peaceful resistance that have shaped nations.
 (06:30) Addressing modern political division.&nbsp;How opposing sides can move toward peace in polarized societies.
 (11:00) Walking the world without money.&nbsp;A radical experiment in trust and human kindness.
 (16:40) How to begin practicing trust and courage.&nbsp;Building inner strength through daily habits.
 (23:40) Building and organizing peace movements.&nbsp;Practical steps for creating large-scale change.
 (33:00) The “peace tea” story.&nbsp;A small act of kindness with a global ripple effect.
 (35:00) Peace and environmental responsibility.&nbsp;Why peace must include harmony with nature.
 (41:00) Inner vs outer transformation.&nbsp;Why are they necessary and inseparable?

 Guest Bio:

 
 Satish Kumar is an acclaimed activist, author, and speaker known for his lifelong commitment to peace, nuclear disarmament, and ecological sustainability. He is widely recognized for his extraordinary 8,000-mile peace walk across the world and for his long-standing role as editor emeritus of Resurgence &amp; Ecologist magazine. 
 Over the years, Satish has been a Jain monk, pacifist, and advocate for nuclear disarmament. He is also the founder and Director of Programmes at Schumacher College, the internationally respected center for ecological studies. 
 One of his most remarkable achievements was completing, alongside his companion E. P. Menon, an 8,000-mile peace pilgrimage that began in New Delhi in 1962 and continued over two and a half years through Moscow, Paris, London, and Washington, D.C.—the capitals of the world’s earliest nuclear powers.&nbsp; 
 Throughout his work, Satish has consistently championed the belief that reverence for nature should be at the center of every political and social conversation. 

 This episode is sponsored by Euphrates Institute, a global community equipping everyday people to become peacebuilders through trainings, workshops, resources, and monthly calls. Join us at  www.euphrates.org.]]></itunes:summary>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 1rem; letter-spacing: 0px;">Peace Is Power is a podcast hosted by former CIA officer and peacebuilder Janessa Gans Wilder. After serving 21 months in Iraq during the war, Janessa began asking a different question: What if real power is not force, domination, or control, but connection, courage, and the protection of life?</span></p><p><br></p><p>Through intimate conversations with diplomats, artists, activists, veterans, and spiritual leaders, Peace Is Power explores how peace can transform our inner lives, our relationships, and the world we share.</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://peaceispower.org/" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a>&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://euphrates.org" target="_blank">https://euphrates.org&nbsp;</a></p><p>  <br></p> <p>Peace is not passivity. It is a moral, creative, and spiritual force. And the world needs you to find it; in your relationships, your community, and whatever corner of the world you call home. </p><p><br></p><p>This is your invitation. This is your moment. </p><p><br></p><p>Learn more at <a href="https://peaceispower.org" target="_blank">https://peaceispower.org</a><br></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Peace Is Power is a podcast hosted by former CIA officer and peacebuilder Janessa Gans Wilder. After serving 21 months in Iraq during the war, Janessa began asking a different question: What if real power is not force, domination, or control, but connection, courage, and the protection of life?

Through intimate conversations with diplomats, artists, activists, veterans, and spiritual leaders, Peace Is Power explores how peace can transform our inner lives, our relationships, and the world we share.

https://peaceispower.org&nbsp;
https://euphrates.org&nbsp;]]></itunes:summary>
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